Matelots Tidfers

#1
Isn't it about time we discarded the "milk churn" hats worn by both male and female matelots. They tend to make Jack look like an absolute pillock. They look even worse when worn by females
The headwear worn by senior rates is appropriate, and female senior rates wear the equivilent.
I Believe that when they modernised the rig they missed a great opportunity to get rid of the hat and substituted it with something more appropriate.
 
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Trelawnmower:

I note that you have landed that new job as the RR Fashion Critic (West) and I therefore claim my free burberry lining !
 
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Trelawnmower:

I note that you have landed that new job as the RR Fashion Critic (West) and I therefore claim my free burberry lining !
Almost correct. Therefore second prize of "Wanchi Burberry" on its way. Complete with the bad weather to road test it :-D
 
#5
Isn't it 'titfer' - from the cockerney rhyming slang tit-for-tat? Agree they are a bit shit, but what options are there? Not the God awful yank things?
 
#10
Whilst on deployment in the Windies we had a bunch of bananas hanging up in the mess square. Adorning the top was a French Matelots cap complete with feminine red pom pom (red fluffy thing) not to be confused with the Pom Poms Granny used to play with.
Needless to say jack used to return from his cultural run ashore, and end up doffing the stalk of bananas. Something about the French Matelots hats just says "Come on Jack, try and hit me".
So in essence I don't think they ought to be designed by someone French.
 
#12
Titfers

Isn't it about time we discarded the "milk churn" hats worn by both male and female matelots. They look even worse when worn by females.


Considering that working rig is berets I would consider that the cap tallied "milk churn" to be a smart rig for stepping out in square rig. the other option to be considered would be the fore&aft rig of the old miscellanious branches.
Got to agree that the female sailors rig is attrocious, the women should have kicked up to retain their WRNS stepping out rig,their caps were more suitable or they could adopt blue badged SR hats.
 

(granny)

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#13
" not to be confused with the Pom Poms Granny used to play with."

Winding wool around a cardboard milk bottle top....what fun we had during the war. Almost as much fun as knitting squares, the whole family sat around the kitchen table, listening to Alvar Liddell read the 9 oclock news.
 
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#15
Since they got rid of the white front in favour of tropical shirts they might as well get rid of the milk churn cap and keep it for No1 uniform only as well. Or, if I had my way, I'd bring back the white front worn with trousers so our sailors look more like sailors and less like parking attendants.
 

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#16
Since they got rid of the white front in favour of tropical shirts they might as well get rid of the milk churn cap and keep it for No1 uniform only as well...
They haven't. White fronts are still worn as and when necessary. No. 3 shirts, in my opinion, are much smarter (and more practical) than white fronts when worn as part of night clothing/non-working dress.

...if I had my way...
Glad you haven't.
 
#17
Let's be honest, the "Royal Navy" JR eppaulette was only intorduced because the RN was losing identity in the public eye. If you put a lad out selling poppies in a white front civvies will recognise him as a sailor. Put him out in a trop shirt and he could be anyone.

Agreed trop shirts are more comfortable, but then again so are polo-shirts or t-shirts and in a messdeck they look smart.

I did say they kept the white front with No's 1 by the way (that was the as well bit) :)
 

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