Master-at-Arms

hammockhead

Lantern Swinger
#1
I still remember the time I first came across a MAA and called him 'Chief'... have they now been abolished? Most ships seem to have Executive Warrant Officers now, and the crown-in-wreath badge has now been given the WO2s. Yet I'm pretty sure I saw a wren master-at-arms with chief's buttons at the RM Beating Retreat last month...
 
#2
Yep they still exist, but soon they will become "Naval Police" rather than the "Regulating Branch".

But for the moment you still get LREGs, RPOs, MAAs ("master") and WOMAAs.

A female MAA is referred to as "ma'am".
 

sgtpepperband

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#4
As part of the new Armed Forces Act, the Regulating Branch will be redesigned to come into line with the RMP and RAFP, as they don't understand what a Killick Reg, Arps or Joss is! (If it ain't Cpl, Sgt, or S/Sgt then they get confused.) We will still retain the same core skills but the titles/ranks will change to avoid confusion for our non-naval colleagues.

Therefore LREG will be known as Leading Naval Policeman
RPO will be Petty Officer Naval Policeman
MAA will become Chief Petty Officer Naval Police

So there will be no reference to 'PORN' anywhere.

Unfortunately as a consequence the Branch Crown will be removed to be replaced with a generic 'POLICE'-style badge, and there are moves afoot to change the uniform to distinguish Policemen from other naval ranks/rates (perhaps different epaulettes or coloured berets, etc). However this might also mean that the MAA (the oldest rank in the RN) will lose the Badge of Office (subject to negotiation between the Provost Marshals).

However I believe that, as Jack is a creature of habit, he will continue to call the CPO(NP) 'Joss' or 'Master' (or something else behind his back, if he dares!)
 
#5
Oh he does dare!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

My favourite was to call a certain RPO - RP Zero. I don't think he cared for the math aspect if you catch my meaning. :lol:
 
#6
dunkers said:
Yep they still exist, but soon they will become "Naval Police" rather than the "Regulating Branch".

But for the moment you still get LREGs, RPOs, MAAs ("master") and WOMAAs.

A female MAA is referred to as "ma'am".
How disappointing Dunkers: I thought they'd be called Mistress!
 
#7
Unfortunately as a consequence the Branch Crown will be removed to be replaced with a generic 'POLICE'-style badge, and there are moves afoot to change the uniform to distinguish Policemen from other naval ranks/rates (perhaps different epaulettes or coloured berets, etc). However this might also mean that the MAA (the oldest rank in the RN) will lose the Badge of Office (subject to negotiation between the Provost Marshals).

Back in 89/90 the RAN decided that the Naval Police would lose their separate status, change their kahki uniforms for sailors rig and their rank structure would change to that of the proper Navy ie: Constable = Leading Hand, Sergeant = CPO, Inspector = LEUT etc. The title would be LSNP, PONP, CPONP etc. THis caused much angst amongst the NP ranks as it also meant that the malingering bastards would have to go to sea and work for a living. Needless to say the ranks were thinned drasically as many of the old style "Dockie Coppers" couldnt handle the changes.

Some 15 years on, and after an unhappy shotgun marriage to the Coxswain category the whole thing has settled down and the NPC category has found its place in the scheme of things, not least because they now wear the old Coxswains rate badge and the police badges are kept out of sight instead of being worn on the chest. :wink:
 
#8
sgtpepperband said:
However I believe that, as Jack is a creature of habit, he will continue to call the CPO(NP) 'Joss' or 'Master' (or something else behind his back, if he dares!)
Never could bring myself to ever call one master, what a feed, they luv it, must be a BDSM thing. :oops:
 
#9
Lingyai said:
sgtpepperband said:
However I believe that, as Jack is a creature of habit, he will continue to call the CPO(NP) 'Joss' or 'Master' (or something else behind his back, if he dares!)
Never could bring myself to ever call one master, what a feed, they luv it, must be a BDSM thing. :oops:
When the Dr.Who series came on TV and I got to see it as a young adult on long leave, I loved the way the evil guy in it was called The Master! :twisted: Didn't really bother me - it's only a label - like calling an Officer 'Sir'.

Are their any Jossys here who saw Dr.Who? How did they feel?
 
#11
Not another nail in the coffin,other forces have always understood what a REGGIE is,they used to patrol together in foreign lands,whats wrong with the title Master at Arms,its very old,what will happen to the coxswain,will that be incorporated ? Who are these people?
 
#12
Is this because Red Caps and Snowdrops hold a Warrant similar to a "Real" copper, but, the Naval Reggies don't.

This was something I heard whilst I was in the mob, working at FIGPU, a few years ago.

I don't know if this is true or what the difference is, I would think it gives them more "powers"

Let them have Bright Blue Berets then they can stand together as Red, White & Blue
 

Sea_Dodger

Lantern Swinger
#16
I always found that "hello chief, nice bracelet" got the desired bite and rant from a Joss.

Anyway they don't need anything to distingish them from ordinary jack. You know who the rozzer is in a mess deck. He's the one sat in the corner with no mates drinking coke waiting to stitch up his oppos.

I wonder what percentage of Reggies are failed Stewards, it's got to be pretty high!
 
#19
Also they would do as I was taught in plod when I first joined. Write all notes in pencil so they could be rubbed out and suitably altered back at the Nick to ensure I got a conviction.

NUtty
 
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