Mass murder in the skies: was the plot feasible?

[Lingyai]

unfortunately, no its not, brussels decidede taht capital punsihment just isnt fair on those poor souls, perhaps a rehabititation order?

And there's us, trying to establish a pinnacle of moral highness licensing capital punishment. You know ... us Westerners, doyens of principle and compassion. Oh, have a look at what happens in Chop-Chop square every Friday morning in Saudi Arabia. Check out the metering of crime and punishment in Arab lands.

however capital punishment should be re-introduced in such cases but only for concrete evidence, treason or no treason.

What? Concrete evidence? Like the concrete evidence that jailed the men accused of the Carl Bridgewater case? Like the cast-titanium 'you got me bang to rights, guvvnor' evidence submitted to jail the Brimingham and Guildford bombers? Or is it that they have beards, yell 'Allah Akhbar!' and wear funny dresses enough? Sure ... let's catch the ******* setting out, on the day in the act of perpetrating the crime. Let's make sure we have them in the act, irrefutible evidence, the stuff that proves guilt, not satisfies suspicion.

for example if old akbah gets stopped and searched and turns out his hi-tech bag is packed with some sort of fertiliser and other chemicals then he should swing and before he swings, the police should be able to hold him for 28, 90, however many days they want without having to ask some un-elected magistrate in order to find his mates and comrades

Yeah! And I tell you what? Let's build our own Guantanamo Bay, right here in free old Britain. Let's jail the motherfuckers, piss on their Quoran's ... let's imprison them, even though we can't find evidence to support the framing of charges ... simply because (see last posting a, b and c)

If it satisfies your pea-sized mentality, make it so. Just don't drip when the same law is used against you ... your son is locked up indefinately for charges yet to be brought and you suddenly realise that even the vote you cast, the choices you make and the freedoms you fought for, don't mean a ******* thing.

Levers

If our security services shared your liberal views we would be in deep shit. How many total innocents do you think there are in Guantanamo? Anyone, not just rag heads, trying to take down airliners by shoe bombs or chemical means should be taken out of circulation by imprisonment or other means. I would rather someones liberties were infringed than see hundreds of people blown up mid flight. We are fully at war with these animals now, they are breeding in our shitty islamic communities that people with their liberal mentalities allowed to be built.
Why should we allow home grown scum to live in our country when they openly denounce it and declare war on our people?

 

[RoofRat]

"If that is what I am, then you my friend are akin to Hitler."
Levers old mate, if you only knew the diverse make up of my family background you would choke on your statement
That aside, I never mentioned the word you used to describe people from the sub continent. I am talking about Muslim fundamentalists, whether they be far eastern Asians, middle eastern Arabs, or our our Muslim fundamentalists (the last one also includes ethnic British) Their stated aim is for the overthrow of our secular way of life. No argument there!
Now, I held the same view of the PIRA and OIRA when they were attacking my/our country too, and no doubt if another group turns up trying to subvertor damage our way of life, I shall be voiciferous in condenming them too. No apology!
The whole point of my reply really was to vent my feelings on the very liberal attitudes, not just yours, that are making excuses for these acts here. For more than 37 years I worked for Queen and Country, I am a passionate Englishman 1st and 2nd a very proud Britain. If it takes some unpalitable laws to assure our future, then I will back the people who will bring it into force. But, I have to say, I don't see any from the present bunch of Wet liberal Pollys, Police Chiefs or Judiciary.
RoofRat

 

[captain.j]

I love americans......its the shitting em out that causes me pain.

 

[Deleted 493]

If our security services shared your liberal views we would be in deep shit. How many total innocents do you think there are in Guantanamo? Anyone, not just rag heads, trying to take down airliners by shoe bombs or chemical means should be taken out of circulation by imprisonment or other means.

Again, Lingyai, you use the term 'liberal' like it is some kind of insult. Fill your boots. Our security services can't hit a cow's arse with a ******* banjo at the moment, despite the tub-thumping and crawing. Let's see the evidence, and see them sent down beyond reasonable doubt. If they do walk (and no doubt straight into the nearest Mosque for some more 'terrorist training') I suppose you'll come back on here saying they're guilty anyway, just because they are 'ragheads' yeah?

Innocents in Guantanamo? You tell me. I'd say with the glorious Western justice system yu trumpet so loudly they are all innocent, until proven guilty. That's how we work it, isn't it? So, clever lad ... tell me how many are standing trial for terrorist offences, five years after the Yanks went into Afghanistan?

I would rather someones liberties were infringed than see hundreds of people blown up mid flight. We are fully at war with these animals now, they are breeding in our shitty islamic communities that people with their liberal mentalities allowed to be built.
Why should we allow home grown scum to live in our country when they openly denounce it and declare war on our people?

So, you'd be happy as **** to be caught in the crossfire (or your kids) on the streets of Britian (or mistakenly slotted, even) so the War of Terror can go on? Have a ******* decent think about what you're saying there. You're actually advocating a police state, with martial law. Lovely! And ... at war with whom, exactly?

Home grown scum. What a marvellous thought. Does that include bigotted, racist bastards, as well?

Levers

 

[come_the_day]

Don't see what the last few posts have to do with the thread, but it's good to see that Lingyai and Levers have the bit between their teeth! I hope that Ryanair get their millions back from the government, but they'd have to concede that Reid had got it wrong, so fat chance of that.

 

[Greenie]

If our security services shared your liberal views we would be in deep shit. How many total innocents do you think there are in Guantanamo? Anyone, not just rag heads, trying to take down airliners by shoe bombs or chemical means should be taken out of circulation by imprisonment or other means.

Again, Lingyai, you use the term 'liberal' like it is some kind of insult. Fill your boots. Our security services can't hit a cow's arse with a ******* banjo at the moment, despite the tub-thumping and crawing. Let's see the evidence, and see them sent down beyond reasonable doubt. If they do walk (and no doubt straight into the nearest Mosque for some more 'terrorist training') I suppose you'll come back on here saying they're guilty anyway, just because they are 'ragheads' yeah?

Innocents in Guantanamo? You tell me. I'd say with the glorious Western justice system yu trumpet so loudly they are all innocent, until proven guilty. That's how we work it, isn't it? So, clever lad ... tell me how many are standing trial for terrorist offences, five years after the Yanks went into Afghanistan?

I would rather someones liberties were infringed than see hundreds of people blown up mid flight. We are fully at war with these animals now, they are breeding in our shitty islamic communities that people with their liberal mentalities allowed to be built.
Why should we allow home grown scum to live in our country when they openly denounce it and declare war on our people?

So, you'd be happy as **** to be caught in the crossfire (or your kids) on the streets of Britian (or mistakenly slotted, even) so the War of Terror can go on? Have a ******* decent think about what you're saying there. You're actually advocating a police state, with martial law. Lovely! And ... at war with whom, exactly?

Home grown scum. What a marvellous thought. Does that include bigotted, racist bastards, as well?

Levers

I think it wouldn't be much different than has happened in Northern Ireland

Only thing being the Army /peace keeping force would know their possible enemy----the beard and raghead appearance .LOL

 

[Lingyai]

Let's see the evidence, and see them sent down beyond reasonable doubt. If they do walk (and no doubt straight into the nearest Mosque for some more 'terrorist training')

So we just let them get on with it for fear of upsetting them?

So, you'd be happy as **** to be caught in the crossfire (or your kids) on the streets of Britian (or mistakenly slotted, even) so the War of Terror can go on? Have a ******* decent think about what you're saying there. You're actually advocating a police state, with martial law. Lovely! And ... at war with whom, exactly?

Are you offshore? Do you actualy know what is going on in the world? Police state is not a problem for law abiding citizens.

Home grown scum. What a marvellous thought. Does that include bigotted, racist bastards, as well?

Levers

Obviously a dig at me, but I am not a racist, however I do take exception to the Islamic scum that try to blow up innocent civilians, if that makes me a racist in your eyes then so be it. They deserve the noose, the people that blow up kids and women (ragheads or micks for that matter) deserve to swing, if you don't agree with that then the issue is with you I think.

 

[Maxi_77]

Are you offshore? Do you actualy know what is going on in the world? Police state is not a problem for law abiding citizens.

Have you ever been in a real police state?

Peter

Ps most people have a dig at you because it is really too easy most of the time.

 

[Lingyai]

Ps most people have a dig at you because it is really too easy most of the time.

Touche

 

[asst_dep_to_dep_asst]

Ling - don't stop posting because some have a dig, though I'm sure you won't!! Your little spat with Levers has been good entertainment, although the lapse into effing and blinding would be more at home in Lil's. Society is made up of all opinions and long may we be free to express them.

 

[Maxi_77]

I don't think Ling will give up on us that easy, he enjoys winding those that will bite up, just as some of us like to niggle at him just a little.

To be honest I think he is fully aware of his entertainment value.

Peter

 

[Lingyai]

I don't think Ling will give up on us that easy, he enjoys winding those that will bite up, just as some of us like to niggle at him just a little.

To be honest I think he is fully aware of his entertainment value.

Peter

Quite right sir. If the banter died here I would be off like a shot. Cyber mess deck, got to love it, all the banter and none of the scrubbing out....