Main differences between the Subs and the surface fleet?

Submarines or Surface?


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#1
Hello, I'm 16 and im just about to join the navy as a weapons engineer (not submariner). I have an induction about the submarines on the same day as my medical, and I'm giving it a lot of thought. As well as the pay, what big differences are their between the subs and the surface?
Like, how would i be able to keep fit on a sub? Do they have some sort of gym on board?
Would i be able to travel as much as the surface fleet and see the world it the same sort of way?
Am I at sea for a longer or shorter than the surface?
What activities/facilities are there on a sub?

Thanks
 

Ninja_Stoker

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#2
I'm sure there are many that can answer your queries ahead of the presentation, but at the same time, that's the point of the presentation - To give an accurate, up to date insight about the submarine service. It isn't an induction, it's an insight.

Best bet? Don't make a judgement call until you get to speak with the Submarine Recruiting Team.
 
#3
As well as the pay, what big differences are their between the subs and the surface?
  • Work on a six hour on six hour off rotation whilst deployed (Different for aft ME's)
  • As a qualified submariner you will have to have an overall better whole ship understanding which comes with your BSQ qualification.
  • Submarine deployments tend to be longer on average (apart from bombers)
  • You will have a lot more responsibility at a more junior level on a submarine
  • When you go to a foreign port you will be put up in 4-6* hotels as you cannot be accommodated on board unlike surface fleet
  • Extra subsistence bonus when alongside at a foreign port (Avg. £20 a day)
How would i be able to keep fit on a sub? Do they have some sort of gym on board?
Differs per boat but expect to see various free weights/small bar and a bench. Cycle machine and a rowing machine as an average.

Am I at sea for a longer or shorter than the surface?
More than likely longer with an average of 6 months with scope to fly home for a short while during a deployment.

What activities/facilities are there on a sub?
Differs per boat but expect to see an Xbox/Playstation two TV's with a hard drive for playing films/music videos which you can transfer to an iPad or similar if you wish.
 
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Seadog

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#4
Hello, I'm 16 and im just about to join the navy as a weapons engineer
You may be just about to join the navy to train to eventually become an Engineering Technician (WE) but it's a stretch to claim that you are joining as a (fully formed) weapons engineer. I blame the Navy's adverts: "you'll be a Royal Navy engineer". No you won't. You'd be joining as a Warrant Officer or Officer if that was the case.
 
#5
You may be just about to join the navy to train to eventually become an Engineering Technician (WE) but it's a stretch to claim that you are joining as a (fully formed) weapons engineer. I blame the Navy's adverts: "you'll be a Royal Navy engineer". No you won't. You'd be joining as a Warrant Officer or Officer if that was the case.

Ah Seadog don't piss on his parade, there he is thinking that he will be an instant engineer when it will take him years to achieve that if he ever does.
The RNs fault though for devising such impressive sounding titles
 

repoman

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#8
Hello, I'm 16 and im just about to join the navy as a weapons engineer (not submariner). I have an induction about the submarines on the same day as my medical, and I'm giving it a lot of thought. As well as the pay, what big differences are their between the subs and the surface?
Like, how would i be able to keep fit on a sub? Do they have some sort of gym on board?
Would i be able to travel as much as the surface fleet and see the world it the same sort of way?
Am I at sea for a longer or shorter than the surface?
What activities/facilities are there on a sub?

Thanks
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#14
One is a visible target the other is very hard to find, so does not play hide and seek with submarines, they do not play fair.
Whilst at sea on an SM you have no need for aftershave, deodorant’s, talc or any nice smelling stuff just a good old bar of soap is all you need, so you get to save even more money.
 
#15
One is a visible target the other is very hard to find, so does not play hide and seek with submarines, they do not play fair.
Whilst at sea on an SM you have no need for aftershave, deodorant’s, talc or any nice smelling stuff just a good old bar of soap is all you need, so you get to save even more money.
You lying bstrd, when has a submariner ever used soap, talcum powder in an emergency perhaps;)
 
#17
  • Work on a six hour on six hour off rotation whilst deployed (Different for aft ME's)
  • and this routine for weeks/months on end is a fecking killer
  • As a qualified submariner you will have to have an overall better whole ship understanding which comes with your BSQ qualification.
  • this is true
  • Submarine deployments tend to be longer on average (apart from bombers)
  • yep, and far longer stretches at sea than a ship (look at the 6 hour watch routines)
  • You will have a lot more responsibility at a more junior level on a submarine
  • which will include longer hours, more grief. Time alongside is precious
  • When you go to a foreign port you will be put up in 4-6* hotels as you cannot be accommodated on board unlike surface fleet
  • IF you go to a foreign port. A fleet boat will have absolutely no where near the variety and number of port visits a ship has. no where near. if you get an SSBN, you may never ever get one
  • Extra subsistence bonus when alongside at a foreign port (Avg. £20 a day)
  • Again, IF you go to a foreign port. If you do, how many?
Differs per boat but expect to see various free weights/small bar and a bench. Cycle machine and a rowing machine as an average.
the fitness facilities on a boat are poor. but a good effort given the space


More than likely longer with an average of 6 months with scope to fly home for a short while during a deployment.
if your relief is not a toe-rag leg iron. But on a long trip, you should get a few weeks home...remember weeks/months of 6 hours on/off...you will be crawling the bulkhead for this time off


Differs per boat but expect to see an Xbox/Playstation two TV's with a hard drive for playing films/music videos which you can transfer to an iPad or similar if you wish.
and zero TV. get TV at sea on a ship (which include sport etc)
my penneth in bold
 

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