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Mail: "Royal Navy's New £1bn Hunter-Killer Submarine Is Rusting"

........................It's not particularly quick, has had the odd leak and has rust in places - much like any other submarine we've ever had. Other news, today is Friday, the Pope may or may not be a Catholic and bears are still shitting in forests! And don't get me started on "self proclaimed nuclear safety expert and complete bell-end" John Large
 
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janner

MIA
Book Reviewer
I didn't realise that Astute was commissioned 15 years ago. More accurate reporting.
 

Waspie

War Hero
........................It's not particularly quick, has had the odd leak and has rust in places - much like any other submarine we've ever had. Other news, today is Friday, the Pope may or may not be a Catholic and bears are still shitting in forests!And don't get me started on "self proclaimed nuclear safety expert and complete bell-end" John Large

Tut tut!

You totally missed the seriously important news that Beckham may move to Australia, although now declined by the man himself.:wink:
 

tiddlyoggy

War Hero
Book Reviewer
It's also on the MOD news feed. The S/M's in my office are not taking it quite as lightly as you are NA4KFP.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Everyone where I am are treating it with the contempt it deserves. It lost all credibility as soon as Large's name appeared in the article, and a vent cap came off some Main Circ pipework...wowser!!!
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
I've just re-read the article and it states the Primary Shield Tank is lead lined and using the wrong grade lead has affected the detectors. I was a Primary EA and used to maintain the stuff and I'm pretty sure the tank isn't lead lined, if it was the detectors wouldn't work in the first place, but ready to be corrected.
 

Subsunk

Lantern Swinger
Book Reviewer
With any luck, the nuclear engineer arch-walt will pick up the phrase 'John Large' in these posts and log on again to get more abuse. John, if you read this post, please, from the bottom of my irradiated heart, suck my spike.
 

Sumo

War Hero
Other problems that have affected the boat in recent months include:
• Flooding during a routine dive that led to Astute performing an emergency surfacing. Crew lack of knowledge of new vessel, some of the near miss reports when the U boats first put to sea would illustrate that the colour of fear was brown

Corrosion even though the boat is essentially new. Let’s see a few bolts of wrong type or not protected correctly in salt water = rust now there is a revelation?

The replacement or moving of computer circuit boards because they did not meet safety standards. A few were changed from different systems, for upgrade never heard safety was an issue? Most were equipment meeting on vessel for first time teething probs, what’s new?

Concern over the instruments monitoring the nuclear reactor because the wrong type of lead was used.?? See wreckers reply

• Questions being raised about the quality and installation of other pieces of equipment. The Mod wants to buy cheap they get what they pay for some and the arrogance of some of the senior build managers need there blinkers re-sett

• Concern reported among some crew members about the Astute's pioneering periscope, that does not allow officers to look at the surface "live". New tech v Old tech will always get opposition

Well all in all for a vessel more complex than a NASA rocket, I think it has not had that many issues, as for the carrier paper design we will have to wait and see what there actual speed will be. :coffee2::sleepy5: almost time for W/E
 

SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
Well, if you think the Grauniad's reporting is bad, check out the Wail. I'm not even going to post a link, suffice to say - 'Missile Compartment,' 'periscope that is underwater' and some other gems of dross.
 
And on top of all that the fcuking boat is jinxed if I was a submariner I'd rather go on the trot than serve on her and we thought Trafalgar had snags!!!
 

Rocket_Ron

Lantern Swinger
Corrosion even though the boat is essentially new. Let’s see a few bolts of wrong type or not protected correctly in salt water = rust now there is a revelation?

...Well all in all for a vessel more complex than a NASA rocket, I think it has not had that many issues,

We`ve had iron in water for a couple of hundred years and know about rust and how to stop it. How is it possible that this new and shiny kit is susceptable to a problem over two centuries old ? Its ridiculous that we`re charging forward pioneering new technologies and forgetting the very basics. Its also very lucky that the `unprotected/wrong type` of bolt was in an area where it could be discovered, makes you wonder what other basic mistakes may be lurking out there.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
And on top of all that the fcuking boat is jinxed if I was a submariner I'd rather go on the trot than serve on her and we thought Trafalgar had snags!!!

I did 4 years on Traf (1999 - 2003) and she didn't have any major snags, what snags do you mean?
 
We had all sorts of problems on Holland 1......

I like this snippet about the first British Hollands from The British Submarine by Cdr F W Lipscomb OBE RN:

...Originally in the American design this submarine had no periscope at all. The only way of seeing the situation when the submarine was being operated was to break surface and look through one of the scuttles in the small conning tower. In any sea at all this was a most difficult proceeding for the commanding officer. The idea of the periscope was first thought of and designed for our submarines by Captain Bacon, in conjunction with Howard Grubb, head of a firm of opticians in Dublin. This periscope did not rise up and down vertically when in use, and it could only be in two positions: either fully extended vertically, or housed horizontally by a ball and socket joint on the hull of the submarine when not in use. Also, when the submarine captain was looking ahead the object he saw was upright and when he looked astern the object was upside down. Similarly, when he looked on the beam the object was on its side. Nevertheless this invention was a tremendous step in the evolution of the submarine and although the French were the first to design and fit periscopes, let it be recorded that a Brittish naval officer gave us our own and it was Bacon's periscope which was adopted in the American Navy...
 

danny

War Hero
Some of the guardians readers are really clever one said 'it will probably sink' well I would hope with all this money spent it bloody does sink.
 
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