Navy Net - Royal Navy Community

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Mail: "Lord Ashcroft On The Tales Of Valour Behind The VC"

Read this one early Sol. That Ashcroft fella is pretty sound, when the Army museum got robbed of all it's VC's over here not so long ago he fronted up the money to get them back.
 
When you come down to it, medals are just lumps of metal and ribbon. One could even say that if you've seen one VC, you've seen them all. It's the people and the deeds the medals represent that are important. This is why Lord Ashcroft's research team has gone to great pains to contact family members, parent units and historians to gather background information and photos of the recipients and ascertain the facts behind the awards. This data will be displayed alongside the medals and should make for an awe-inspiring exhibition. Don't miss it.
 

seafarer1939

War Hero
Re: Mail: "Lord Ashcroft On The Tales Of Valour Behind The V

Grew up in a village with a VC winner from WW1, saved 12 men from no mans land as a stretcher bearer and deserved it,modest and unassuming man and was always known as VC Young, never his first name.
I didn't know that all VC winners never pay for a drink in any pub they visit,or at least they didn't on Tyneside but I heard it was a regular decision countrywide.
When I left school and the farm wasn't doing enough to support two families I briefly went down the pit,at the bottom of the shaft was the timekeeper who was scarred with mustard gas.
He was on the other end of the stretcher when Young won the VC, he,although scarred on face and in lungs didn't get any award!
How can that be?both went out to rescue men,one got the highest award,the other nothing.
He never moaned or mentioned it,they were both pals from way back and that's how it ended up.
He told me the men saved were the most important thing not the medals.
Two brave men.
 
Medals aren't always about bravery, that is the catalyst for them but when it comes to dishing them out the pen is mightier than the sword. No flowing commentary, no medal.

A little bit of thread drift if I may. Afghanistan. Bootnecks clip an Apache to their belt kit and off they go. 4 pongo's driving the things get awards, so does the Pongo who clipped one to his belt......Fair play, well deserved. 3 Booties who clipped them to their belts, nothing.
 

NZ_Bootneck

War Hero
New revelations regarding the security, or rather the lack of it at the NZ Army Museum and the incredible seeming lack of inerest in recovering MCs stolen or 'lost' up to 30 years ago.
TV One News clip


Synopsis. Two NZ WWI Veterans complete sets of medals, both of which had MCs included, have been discovered to be missing during a stocktake of the NZ Army MUseum Collection. Last seen 30 years ago.
Bare bones of the story revealed in March and Army said it would search for the medals and surviving relatives, results "We can't find the medals or any relatives."
TV One News puts in a FOIA chit to get more details and after a bit of rooting around finds one set of medals in the hands of an Australian collector who bought them honestly. Also find the daughter of one of the recipients alive and well in California with an NZ Passport.
Cue embarrased Army Officers mumbling their thanks and looking daft. :roll:
 

Bergen

ADC
wet_blobby said:
Read this one early Sol. That Ashcroft fella is pretty sound, when the Army museum got robbed of all it's VC's over here not so long ago he fronted up the money to get them back.

He had the honour of being E Company Commander so of course he's sound :wink:

I'd always believed that all V.C.'s were cast from Russian cannon bronze until Wiki enlightened me > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Cross
 

flymo

War Hero
wave_dodger said:
Bergen said:
He had the honour of being E Company Commander so of course he's sound :wink:

Who, Lord Ashcroft?

Of course he is - a thoroughly honourable gentleman - that is why he is doing these great deeds. Nothing at all to do with him trying to deflect his lack of UK tax liability.
 

labrum

War Hero
Bergen said:
wet_blobby said:
Read this one early Sol. That Ashcroft fella is pretty sound, when the Army museum got robbed of all it's VC's over here not so long ago he fronted up the money to get them back.

He had the honour of being E Company Commander so of course he's sound :wink:

I'd always believed that all V.C.'s were cast from Russian cannon bronze until Wiki enlightened me > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Cross

Comes as a surprise to me too. The article doesn't specify whether the variation is chronological; would be interesting to know more about why it changed (that's if a variety of sources were used from the off).

Edited to add: Followed the reference link on Wikipedia; gives further details... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1506463/Author-explodes-myth-of-the-gunmetal-VC.html
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
MoD_RSS Royal Mail to collect COVID-19 test kits 7 days a week MoD News 0
soleil Daily Mail: "Proud Dad Gordon Ramsay Reveals Son Jack, 20, Has Joined The Royal Marines" The Corps 5
soleil NWE Mail: "Barrow Built Submarine Becomes Inaugural Winner Of A New Royal Navy Commendation" Submariners 2
F Not receiving activation E-mail for candidate portal Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting 10
MoD_RSS Prime Minister's article in the Mail on Sunday: 17 May 2020 MoD News 0
soleil NWE Mail: "Submariner Memorial Appeal - Competition To Celebrate The RN Launched By BAE In Barrow" Submariners 7
soleil Mail: RM Found Face Down In Freezing Water During Beach Assault Exercise - Update The Corps 6
soleil Mail: "RM Chiefs Spark Fury By Offering £10,000 'Golden Hello' Payments To Former Commandos To Rejoin" The Corps 15
soleil Mail: HMS Defender Seizes £3.3m Haul Of Crystal Meth From Drug Smuggler's Dhow In The Arabian Sea The Fleet 3
soleil Mail: "Divers Uncover Guns, A Mop And Even Bottles Of Booze From British Warship HMS Invincible" History 10
soleil Mail: "Real-Life 'Rocket Man' Wearing A Jet Pack Launches From ... HMS Queen Elizabeth" The Fleet 8
MoD_RSS News story: Civil news: contacting the exceptional and complex cases team by e-mail MoD News 0
guns1969 Un-solicited Mail Diamond Lil's 10
soleil Mail: "First Of RAF’s £9 Billion Stealth Fighter Fleet To Land On HMS Queen Elizabeth During Trump Visit In July" The Fleet Air Arm 3
soleil D. Mail: "Royal Marines Stage Dramatic Landing On Scottish Shore" The Corps 1
soleil NW Evening Mail: "Watch A Video Of The Wreck Of The Barrow-Built Sub Holland 5" Submariners 0
soleil Mail: Royal Navy Keeps Old Offshore Patrol Ships It Was Due To Retire For Post-Brexit Coastline Protection The Fleet 1
soleil Mail: "CDS Threatens To Block Promotions Unless Officers Improve The 'Inclusivity And Diversity' Of Their Units" Current Affairs 24
MoD_RSS Speech: Defence Secretary Op-Ed for the Mail on Sunday on mental health MoD News 0
MoD_RSS Speech: Defence Secretary Op-Ed for the Mail on Sunday on mental health MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: Improved mail service ensures loved ones can stay in touch MoD News 0
photface DGW Mail Royal Naval Reserve (RNR) 3
MoD_RSS News story: MOD and Royal Mail sign new agreement to keep personnel connected MoD News 0
MoD_RSS News story: MOD extends its free mail service for Defence Personnel MoD News 0
G Daily Mail caught lying again. How long can they get away with it? Current Affairs 31
MoD_RSS News story: Royal Mail pledges support for Armed Forces Covenant MoD News 0
wave_dodger Daily Mail does it again Current Affairs 103
S Daily Mail - redundancy mess up. Current Affairs 11
soleil NW Evening Mail: Falklands Veteran Sub Leaves Barrow And Embarks On Her Final Voyage Submariners 3
soleil Mail: "The Return Of Britain's 'Top Guns': Royal Navy Recommissions Training Squadron The Fleet Air Arm 11
soleil Mail: "Britain's 'Invisible' Stealth Fighter That Has Cost The Taxpayer £1.3 billion" The Gash Barge 10
soleil Mail: "Antiques Roadshow Object Solves 40-year Puzzle Of How 280ft RN Submarine Sank" Submariners 9
sgtpepperband Daily Mail Wail Fail Current Affairs 15
soleil Mail: "Enemies Beware: Royal Navy Shows Off Its Latest Radar System" The Fleet 8
soleil Mail: "Battle Of The River Plate Monument To Be Unveiled Today" History 10
soleil Mail: "Navy's Gibraltar Stand-off With Spanish Patrol: Warship Challenges 3 Ships" Bases / Shore Est 0
soleil NW Evening Mail: "Huge Piece Of Submarine Dwarfs Barrow Road" Submariners 0
soleil Mail: "BehinD The Scenes With The British Pilots Learning To Fly F-35 Fighter Jet" The Fleet Air Arm 5
soleil Mail: 'RN Veteran Finally Receives His Medals, 64 Years After They Were Lost In Post' History 3
soleil Mail: "Sweetheart Letters On Display For First Time As Part of New RN Exhibition" History 9
soleil Mail: "Were 30 Royal Marines Poisoned By Gas On Derelict Soviet Weapons Plant?" The Corps 5
soleil Mail: 'History In Black And White: WWI Vessels To Be Repainted In 'Dazzle Camouflage' History 1
soleil Mail: "One For Hovering Buyers: Harrier Jump Jet For Sale" The Fleet Air Arm 3
soleil Mail: "A Real Maverick! Norwegian F16 Fighter Pilot Poses For A Selfie" The Fleet Air Arm 6
soleil Mail: "The Maternity Military: How Nearly 100 Female Soldiers Have Been Sent Home" Current Affairs 14
soleil Mail: "Sea Of Love: Royal Navy Crew Spell Out Valentine's Message On The Deck" The Fleet 4
soleil Mail: "Royal Navy Seizes 1.25 Tonnes Of Cocaine Worth £60 million From Speedboat" RFA 2
soleil BBC: "Mail Rail - What Is It Like On The 'Secret' Tube?" History 0
soleil Mail: "Silent Cities Of Sacrifice: Battlefields Where You Can Mark 100 Yrs Since WW1" History 4
soleil Mail: Gov Refuses To Axe Dickensian Rules Forcing Army Widows To Choose Love/Pension Finance & Pensions 28
Similar threads


















































Latest Threads

New Posts

Top