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Lt Commander Busted by Sun for selling his uniform on ebay

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icantfly said:
Reservist-Monkey said:
Since when did a 2 1/2 become a senior officer?

M(R)

That was my first thought!

the crabs see Sqn Ldrs as Senior Officers because that's where sub-unit command comes into the equation.

The RN and the Army se Cdr/ Lt Col as the first senior officer grade, but in the context of this non-story then it helps the mindlessly sensationalist headlines.
 
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rg_mcoll said:
and last night a senior security source warned: “It’s unbelievable. With a full lieutenant commander’s uniform a bad guy could simply walk in.â€

The "Senior Security Source" presumably was The Sun's security man who patrols their place at night!
 
Re: Lt Commander Busted by Sun for selling his uniform on eb

I wouldn't get out af bed for £50K a year!! :thumright: :thumright:

A Lt Cdr earns less than a Chief Submariner. What an incentive to sell your birthright.
 
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BoxKickerSubs said:
Jenny_Dabber said:
I know when I left, I had to hand in my No1's, DMS boots, 2 pairs of 4's and my 5's.

Do officers have the same ruling on this if so, I think this my just be a bite!

Or is my logical thinking off tracks??

The only bit of kit that is required to be handed back to Naval Stores (SLOPS) on leaving the service is your AGR. All the other stuff is disposed of due to H+S regs (skin complaints ect).

It used to be that all JR/SR uniform items, plus any loan items (AGR, Flight Kitbag, Steaming bats etc) was returned if you had done less than 22 years. ( Unless you were a Dusty and didn't return anything usually ;) )

As I now understand, from posts on other threads, all kit is issued on a 141 basis, does this not mean that all kit is only loaned (and therefore must still belong to Pusser) should be returned ?
 
When I left the MOB in 2003 I only had to return my steaming bats, gas mask, one set of high leg boots, and a pair of overalls. I had to keep the rest of my uniform in case I got recalled within 3 years of leaving.

Still got everything I didn't have to return
 
All I had to return in 1971 was my paybook and my AGR. This had to be done at Mercury which was in Easter Leave period - right up to the last minute that level of farce that runs just underneath everything in the Navy broke surface as usual; no Gunner's Yeoman, no access to Gunner's store, so impossible return AGR, therefore paybook can't be stamped, so ???? can't 'leave' the Navy. Eventually OOD took pity on me.

As it happened I had no loan clothing (typically for an officer such things as foul weather gear, minesweeping sweater, lifebelt) as all that had been turned in when I left my last actual ship (don't need oilskins at ASWE). Had cabin sale on board before leaving. 10/- for beautifully bulled Guard boots etc. Mess undress eventually sold by Wardroom 2nd hand shop in RNB. Still have immaculate pr black gaiters, offers anyone?
 
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rg_mcoll said:
He should be setting an example, and the jacket mentioned in the Sun article is an issue item, at the end of the day it belongs to the tax payer and should be returned to stores when you leave, not sold on to make some extra pocket money.

Mr mcoll may not be aware that many officers have their uniforms tailored at their own expense. I believe it's called standards.

Of course, what Auntie Betty giveth, Auntie Betty can taketh away but, as the man said, it will only get weighed in to the likes of Fields for peanuts in return.

None event.
 
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bluebellsrblue said:
I wouldn't get out af bed for £50K a year!! :thumright: :thumright:

A Lt Cdr earns less than a Chief Submariner. What an incentive to sell your birthright.

Bet you would for his pension though!
 
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I'd better ring up the Scum with my scoop then…

"Hello, is that the duty lie merchant?'

"Yes"

"There's a shop right outside HMS Nelson's gate were you can buy Naval uniforms"

'REALLY!"

"Yes, you can even buy an Admirals rig and just walk into the base and sail off in a Destroyer"
 
Re: Lt Commander Busted by Sun for selling his uniform on eb

Did the Sun ever have the guts to print a retraction and full apology (as conspicuous as its original tawdry story) for undeservedly smearing this well-respected and long-serving officer's reputation worldwide? I would also expect them to make a substantial contribution to a Service charity of his choice although it will never be possible to undo the harm they have caused him and his family completely.

P.S. I know of several nefarious organisations like this one who, for a price, are prepared to sell anyone (even Sun reporters) a complete range of Service uniform, ideal for infiltrating naval establishments or ships. Word is that they even sell berets. Do you think I should call the security services?
 
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Naval_Gazer said:
P.S. I know of several nefarious organisations like this one who, for a price, are prepared to sell anyone (even Sun reporters) a complete range of Service uniform, ideal for infiltrating naval establishments or ships. Word is that they even sell berets. Do you think I should call the security services?

That's disgraceful - they even sell swords - fancy being prepared to arm terrorists like that!

:)
 
Hi in the early 60's they were on about identification, so a leading hand on the gate at Collingwood would not let the C inC in he would let the Booty driver in but not the C in C as he did not have any identification, even the capt, of collingwood who was a friend of his could not get him in, so the C in C had to go home and get his I D
The C in C had issued the order a week before this happened that no officer could enter a naval establishment with out I D
 
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Reservist-Monkey said:
Since when did a 2 1/2 become a senior officer?

M(R)

The same time that WOs, CPOs and POs started being described in newspaper headlines as officers, ships started being referred to as boats (or "the HMS Nonsuch"), Royal Marines started being called soldiers and the RAF started flying all helos irrespective of what was displayed on their sides, i.e. when most TV networks, radio networks and newspapers, even the respectable broadsheets, stopped employing Defence correspondents who knew anything about Defence.
 

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