Looking for Advice on Officer Careers

Discussion in 'Joining Up - Royal Navy Recruiting' started by The_Commissar, Aug 5, 2010.

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  1. Firstly I would like to introduce myself as I am new to the Forum:

    I am 16 years old and have recently completed my GCSEs (results in two and a half weeks so fingers crossed)
    I come from the Bristol area and have been considering service in the forces, I looked into all three but the Navy seems the most suitable and appealing to me.

    I am definitely going to do A-levels in Maths, Physics, History and Politics and Government and most likely will continue on to University.

    I will definitely be looking to enter at an Officer-level but as of yet I have very little idea of the process of joining. The job which I am currently looking at is Warfare Officer, as I am quite intersted in command and the chances of promotion seem good.

    So, thats me in short. But what I really want to know is a little more about the process of joining up as well as the Warfare branch and what its personnel do on a day to day basis. Anything else you think would be helpful for a person in my situation would be much valued as well.

    Many thanks all and I hope for a swift reply!
  2. Watch Hot Shots 1 and 2, it explains the core basics, only from an 'across-the-pond' perspective.
  3. Hi Commissar!

    Welcome to Rum Ration!

    Well, in a nutshell, the process of joining for an Officer involves sitting a psychometric test, having your eyesight tested and a medical, a pre-joining fitness test, a Sift Interview with your Area Careers Liaison Officer, an interview with the AIB, the Admiralty Interview Board and then, ultimately, a place at BRNC in Dartmouth.

    Details for Warfare Officer here:


    There is a thread all about the route to AIB here:


    If I were you, I would drop in to see the Royal Navy Careers Advisors in Bristol this week for an informal chat. It can get very busy later in August when the exam results come out, so beat the rush and go in this week.


    Good luck for those GCSE results!
  4. Personally though why Warfare Officer?? For those of us in the Mob, you must agree with me on this, if you where in his position what would you do, knowing what you know now?
    If I was in your shoes commissar, I would be looking long and hard at the medical branch. PMO Dentist something like that.
    The Navy is not for life, think afterlife aswell.
  5. If you want to be an officer in the Royal Navy then you have made the right choice. You're either a warfare officer and in charge of the Ship or you're someone who is there to support you as the warfare officer in charge of the Ship.
    Good advice from Soleil on the timing thing - get in early, meet your local careers advisor and ask them to give you advice and potential to get on a Potential Officer Candidate Visit to one of our Naval Bases - first hand experience is invaluable.
    Good luck.
  6. Would this be a problem for me, seeing as I wear glasses?

    They're not a very strong perscription (no more than +1/-1) and they just sharpen my vision at long distances.
  7. Spot the Warfare Officer!

    Time for the joke I think. Four Naval Surgeons were in dicussion about who they like to operate on.

    The first said "I like operating on Marine Engineer Officers. They understand you just open them up, take all the parts out and put them back together again. Oh, and they also get that there's always a bit left over".

    The second said "No no - Weapon Engineers are better. All you do is open them up, take the broken bit out, replace it with a new bit, and you're done!".

    The third said "Pussers are better. Open them up, find the broken bit - it'll have an NSN attached. Submit a signal and within a month or so you'll have the new bit to put in. It'll not be exactly right, but it'll probably do."

    The fourth said "You're all wrong. Warfare Officers. Easy. Open them up: they've no heart, no guts and no spine. And the head and the arse are completely interchangable."
  8. The fourth said "You're all wrong. Warfare Officers. Easy. Open them up: they've no heart, no guts and no spine. And the head and the arse are completely interchangable."[/quote]

    Pay attention to this man he speaks the truth!!

    ps what trade are the CO's of Carriers? I am sure they are not Warfare.
  9. the careers office can give you current guidance on eyesight but in general terms you need to have good eyesight to be a warfare officer, so glasses could be an issue - best checking early though.
  10. Pay attention to this man he speaks the truth!!

    ps what trade are the CO's of Carriers? I am sure they are not Warfare.[/quote]


    Either they're ex-aricrew that have made the jump across at PWO level and are now full blooded warfairies, or they're Executive Aircrew (which is not a path that many get to tread - if at all now) and always were full blooded warfairies.

    You want to command a ship, go warfare, join God's chosen children.

    Saying that, if I did it all over again there is no way on God's green earth you'd get me window licking my life away on the bridge - I'd go schoolie.

    Horses for courses though really.
  11. The CO of the only UK Carrier at sea is very much a warfare officer and is not an aircrew officer who has 'crossed over'.

    I love the joke angrydoc, and yes I am a warfare officer - what gave it away?
  12. Yes, non-aircrew warfare was the option I forgot to type :wink:
  13. I passed my AIB at 15, and frankly it was far too young, and whilst I don't regret it, I do think that sometimes I made have made the wrong choice. Let me explain...

    With the removal of VIth Scholarships and University Cadetships, I can see no reason why any one who wished to go to uni needs to take their AIB before 20 - ideally to enter BRNC 6 months or so after Uni. Several reasons - leaving it until then allows to experience a bit more of life - who knows, at Uni you may turn into the newest, bestest thing in your chosen area, or you may wish to actually become a lawyer, or whatever. My point is, pre-leaving home you don't get to experience very much for your self, that only comes from being outside your comfort zone.

    Secondly, I would suggest that, despite your heartfelt desire to become a Warfare Officer, you go and do visits to RAF stations and Army Regiments, so you can make an informed decision about what you want to do. If I'd done that, I'd probably be well on my way to commanding an Infantry Company in Afg in 6 months, but I'm killing submarines instead.

    Thirdly, if you get to the point where you've tried everyone else, and the RN is for you, I would suggest that you take 6 months to really consider your decision. If after all that, you are still really, really sure, go towards your AIB. I don't know the ins and outs of how to do it - I presume you start at an AFCO, and move on from there - but it's a well signposted path, and is actually not that hard.

    But I would strongly suggest you went to uni, drank loads, shagged lots, joined the OTC (because you'll still pass the AIB despite playing in "green") and get to Xmas of your second year before making that call.

    The Royal Navy - ready to take you on. And on.
  14. I think that I've sometimes made the wrong choice - but I also used to think sometimes think that I made the wrong choice - but then I'm a pedantic tw*t :wink:

    Good advice from ATG, I'm pretty sure that I would have still joined the RN, but I certainly wouldn't have been a dabber (and I had a VI form scholarship and a Bursary, having taken the AIB at 17).

    Bluntly, even by the time I got to BRNC I pretty much knew that I wanted to change branches, but had to reconcile myself to the fact that I had made my choice 5 years earlier and had to stick by it. Result, 5 years of loving the RN, loving the life, loving being at sea, hating my trade. :cry: Not so good - and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
  15. Very emotive thread I see, and while people are being open and honest ...

    ATG always gives good advice, and ... I sometimes wonder if I should have transferred to WE. But ... I don't regret it, and I was given plenty of chances: AIB at 16 - hardest question for someone studying maths and science A levels, "Why don't you want to be an engineer?" Answer: Because I love the sea and could do that as a civilian. Scholarship and reserved place and even nomination to Manadon - no way, still staying Seaman (as I used to be proud to describe myself, and still consider myself to be first and foremost). Loved my watchkeeping years. No way windowlicking - driving a 22 around the Adriatic for over a year (2 of them consecutively). Small ship Jimmy, bit of PWO and good few happy years settled in my sub-specialisation (seeing some interesting land locked places) with not even a thought of driving a ship. Grew up a bit in my late 30s, went back to the mainstream and back to sea in a job that only a warfare officer can do. And I love it. I still don't want to be the Boss, but like being close to it. But I am lucky.

    Advice - as ATG says - go to Uni and see what you want to do after that.
  16. Actually the Army was what started me looking at the forces as a credible career path but after about 12 months of serious deliberation and plenty of talks with the folks I came to the decision that A career in the Army would make many of the people I care about most worry far too much for my safety; especially with the current situation in Afghanistan. I am not afraid of danger, just what it would put my friends and family through.

    As for the RAF it never really appealed to me, as I don't have perfect 20/20 vision I wouldn't be flying and aircraft engineering isn't an area which greatly interests me.

    I would like a little more explanation on this; I thought that the UOTC was strictly an Army thing?

    Many thanks to all who have posted; your comments have all been extremely helpful.
  17. You joining the OTC will have practically no adverse effect on your RN application. Lots of universities don't have an URNU, or access to the RNR, and we can't disqualify you because you spent your time doing something else. Moreover, you get something to talk about, leadership-wise etc, for the AIB, and it also offers you the ability to go to AOSB and use the same experience. It's about not shutting down options too early.

    I appreciate what you are saying, but even if you joined at 18 I doubt that you'll be trained enough to get to Afg before we draw down in 2014. Whilst there is something to be said about not wishing to make your family/friends worry, but there are far more dangerous things to do than be in the Army - driving before you are 25 or walking through a town centre on a Fri/Sat night as an obvious start....

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