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Live in France need advise.

Dan reese

Midshipman
Hi all,

I have lived in France since i was 8 (now 20) but was born in England, and i'm planning on moving back to join the Royal navy and would like some help answering some questions.

-Will i have any problems joining up on account of not having a UK residence and having lived out side of the UK for so long?

-Will my french qualifications carry over (i have a BAC PRO EEEC witch i think is equivalent to a BTEC National Diploma in electrics but i could be wrong)

-How long does it take from going to a Careers Office to actually joining the navy (i still have family in the UK i can stay with for a while but i think i might outstay my welcome if i'm there for mouths on end.)

-I'v been looking at roles on the Royal Navy site and Warfare Specialist looks promising but have some questions on what it actually is and what high priority role means ?
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Hi all,

I have lived in France since i was 8 (now 20) but was born in England, and i'm planning on moving back to join the Royal navy and would like some help answering some questions.

-Will i have any problems joining up on account of not having a UK residence and having lived out side of the UK for so long?

-Will my french qualifications carry over (i have a BAC PRO EEEC witch i think is equivalent to a BTEC National Diploma in electrics but i could be wrong)

-How long does it take from going to a Careers Office to actually joining the navy (i still have family in the UK i can stay with for a while but i think i might outstay my welcome if i'm there for mouths on end.)

-I'v been looking at roles on the Royal Navy site and Warfare Specialist looks promising but have some questions on what it actually is and what high priority role means ?

Assuming you can produce a recent Police Computer Check from France showing you do not have a string of unspent offences and aren't on the Interpol most wanted list you shouldn't have too much of a problem gaining a residency waiver as long as you can also produce a couple of references vouching you are who you say you are, verifying your impeccable character and work ethic and confirming your whereabouts over the preceding five years. Be aware, your security clearance can take longer if resident overseas - it can delay entry by a few months sometimes.

A Baccalaureate can usually be accepted in lieu of the equivalent relevant GCSE's and A Levels, providing maths & English are included in the GCSE equivalent bits. If you have the GCSE equivalents and a BTEC L3 equivalent in engineering at a suitable grade, you may wish to look at the brand new Accelerated Apprentice scheme (Starting pay £31,100).

Warfare Spec doesn't need any academic entry qualifications incidentally but for any branch, you still need to pass the recruiting test which is a four part, multiple choice psychometric test, 120 questions in 44 minutes including Reasoning, Literacy, Numeracy & Mechanical Comprehension.

Most applicants who are overseas apply online: https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/forums/FindPost/22424

Once you've applied online establish contact with the overseas desk at London AFCO by email: [email protected] to discuss your preferred region to be processed. Hopefully, with sufficient prior planning (three months ahead, ideally) you can hopefully get most selection elements pre-booked, nip over, crack selection then go back to France whilst waiting for a selection date. You can usually crack selection within about 12 weeks.

Warfare Specialist is about 4 months test to entry, by way of example.

Bon chance.
 

Dan reese

Midshipman
Assuming you can produce a recent Police Computer Check from France showing you do not have a string of unspent offences and aren't on the Interpol most wanted list you shouldn't have too much of a problem gaining a residency waiver as long as you can also produce a couple of references vouching you are who you say you are, verifying your impeccable character and work ethic and confirming your whereabouts over the preceding five years. Be aware, your security clearance can take longer if resident overseas - it can delay entry by a few months sometimes.

A Baccalaureate can usually be accepted in lieu of the equivalent relevant GCSE's and A Levels, providing maths & English are included in the GCSE equivalent bits. If you have the GCSE equivalents and a BTEC L3 equivalent in engineering at a suitable grade, you may wish to look at the brand new Accelerated Apprentice scheme (Starting pay £31,100).

Warfare Spec doesn't need any academic entry qualifications incidentally but for any branch, you still need to pass the recruiting test which is a four part, multiple choice psychometric test, 120 questions in 44 minutes including Reasoning, Literacy, Numeracy & Mechanical Comprehension.

Most applicants who are overseas apply online: https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/forums/FindPost/22424

Once you've applied online establish contact with the overseas desk at London AFCO by email: [email protected] to discuss your preferred region to be processed. Hopefully, with sufficient prior planning (three months ahead, ideally) you can hopefully get most selection elements pre-booked, nip over, crack selection then go back to France whilst waiting for a selection date. You can usually crack selection within about 12 weeks.

Warfare Specialist is about 4 months test to entry, by way of example.

Bon chance.
Would i need a statement of comparability for my French diploma to be reconised and is it even worth doing seeing as i don't think i would have a English score on account of only doing standard starter English lessons and my math scores weren't anything to write home about either.

I have a couple more questions..

-Does anyone have any first hand experience as a Warfare Specialist, and whats the general consensus on the position (i.e great time or worst job in the navy ?)

-I know it says on the Royal Navy site that it's possible to join as a rating and become a commissioned Officer, but is it a actual possibility, or do you have more chance at winning the lottery ?
 

Cake

Midshipman
Hi Dan

My lad joined under similar circumstances to you....lived in France since he was 9. He is now at Sultan after successfully completing Phase One at Raleigh :)

With regard to what info you need to support your application we obtained the following...

French Police Record Check from here

https://b3-nref.casier-judiciaire.justice.gouv.fr/caformb3/resources/b3form/index.html

It's free and was received within a week...pretty good going for the French eh?

We also got a letter from the Mairie stating that he lived in the village (with dates) and confirming his date of birth. The Maire also did him a character reference. His Lycee provided a letter confirming his attendance and a reference from his teacher. Obviously they were all in French but all he had to do was translate the documents himself and attach the translation to the originals.

We were expecting the Security Clearance to take a while but luckily it was received 5 weeks after it was submitted.

As for qualifications he just took his original certificates to the AFCO and outlined what the equivalent would be in England.

If you need any more info or advice feel free to ask.

Good luck!
 
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Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Would i need a statement of comparability for my French diploma to be reconised and is it even worth doing seeing as i don't think i would have a English score on account of only doing standard starter English lessons and my math scores weren't anything to write home about either.

I have a couple more questions..

-Does anyone have any first hand experience as a Warfare Specialist, and whats the general consensus on the position (i.e great time or worst job in the navy ?)

-I know it says on the Royal Navy site that it's possible to join as a rating and become a commissioned Officer, but is it a actual possibility, or do you have more chance at winning the lottery ?
If the job you are applying for requires GCSEs or A Levels, AIB will check validity.

To become an officer from within the service, after joining, you need 5 GCSEs including maths and English. About 20%'of officers joined as ratings.

There's plenty on the forum on the subject of Warfare Specialist, just have a trawl through it, see what you think. The thing to remember if someone tells you it's crap, is ask them why they haven't left. If they did leave, ask them if they regret leaving.
 
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