Leaving the RN

Discussion in 'The Fleet' started by Snorkers, May 30, 2007.

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  1. After completing 23 years I have decided its time for a change in employment and have been offered a job in pastures new starting in 2 months. My snag is that the old man has turned down my early release request and will not support it. Any body with any recommendations or knowledge on taking release early from the RN further either by naval law or legally outside with a law firm.

    Any ideas appreciated

    Cheers

    Snorkers
     
  2. what reason did he dismiss this request.
    Is your branch undermanned?
    Are you front line?
     
  3. Make a representation perhaps
     
  4. You could always say you were gay!! oh it doesn't work now :)
     
  5. Stand for Parliament. It's worked for others but I think there has to be an election at the time. Otherwise, good luck.
     
  6. Snorkers, under European law if you are paid monthly you can submit a months notice to leave employment. Have you not submitted your request for termination through JPA to your Branch manager, after all its not up to the skipper its Naval Manning's part of ship. An oppo of mine left 2 weeks ago with a months notice.

    All the best with your efforts to leave and new employment.
     
  7. How short was the notice you gave? I thought anybody could now give just one month's notice to serve...
     
  8. wave_dodger

    wave_dodger War Hero Book Reviewer

    Sadly that's not wholly accurate, the Crown have an exemption. There is a Pusser Barrister who tried that one and is being kept dangling for the full year.

    If the post requires a specialist and that branch cannot source a replacement and get them all the PJTs then they can rightly refuse the request.
     
  9. Snorkers - Why has this post gone in under two different areas (Afterlife and The Fleet)?

    SF
     
  10. chieftiff

    chieftiff War Hero Moderator

    I believe, provided you are either at or completed 22 years you can waiver resettlement and go 91 days early, regardless of whether your Boss agrees or not!(BR 8748) As for early release as has been suggested NM needs time to replace you and their decision is more or less final due to the crown exemption. I would suggest that if you can prove you are easily replaced and have a firm job offer they would be hard pushed to defend their position. As I understand it MOD does have a form of crown exemption to the legislation but it is not cart blanche, they can be made to defend their decision and leave themselves open to litigation if they are unable to do this, especially if you fail to gain employment because of it!

    This Barrister by the way, who is he? I have a friend who has spent some considerable time trying to track him down to no avail. I suspect he, like many of the other cases quoted on both sides of this argument is a myth!
     
  11. Can you elucidate. Have you completed 22 years mans time. When you say your old man do you mean your skipper? If so why not ask for a draft and try again. Surely if you haven't completed 22 years you can't be far off couldn't you just wait or drasttic action buy yourself out?
     
  12. wet_blobby

    wet_blobby War Hero Moderator

    fail a drugs test....you'll be out by monday

    Editted to add, on second thoughts this course of action will probably effect your pension so is a bad idea....sorry.
     
  13. :rambo: Can't help with Naval Regs having departed the Andrew in 1987 but I would advise that unless you know of a very friendly brief be prepared to pay atleast £150 per hour excluding VAT & dispersments for the pleasure of his or her services ! If you lose, or even if you win your still up shit creek having to pay these robbing bastards a fortune .................. not much help I imagine but there you go. Robbing bastards. :money: Mind how you go!!
     
  14. Not wising to sound at all rude but isnt it obvious why he's posted in two different forums. Not everyone has the time or inclination to read every forum every day so they stick to the one's they have an affiliation with.

    The guy asked a simple, lets not resort to nit picking.

    While you're reading, make sure you pick out any spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes won't you :thumright: .
     
  15. In the Wafu world last year and probably others a letter was sent from Fleet/manning asking if those who had their notice in wanted to go earlier than their 12 months as a cost saving measure. AEM/AET must be the most underborn trade in the RN, the RAF are keeping us afloat, however he was allowed to leave early, which I fully supported.

    The inability to attract AET`s who can pass the entrance test is flawed, those clever enough to pass have greater aspirations, those who aspire to not clever enough, in a few years time it will be like OM`s back to tiffs and mechanics, well that's another thread.
     
  16. trehorn wrote: Not wising to sound at all rude but isnt it obvious why he's posted in two different forums. Not everyone has the time or inclination to read every forum every day so they stick to the one's they have an affiliation with.

    The guy asked a simple, lets not resort to nit picking.

    While you're reading, make sure you pick out any spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes won't you.


    Keep yer feckin knickers on mate. Snorkers has only made a few posts and my question was not designed to pick fault with the guy. As a general rule the site seems to prefer to avoid duplication or haven't you been paying attention?

    SF
     

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