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Leading hand of the mess responsibilities?

PUP545

Midshipman
What kind of responsibilities/jobs does the leading hand of the mess have on top of there normal duties?
 

redmonkey

War Hero
Book Reviewer
Have you asked the LHoM yet as I am sure that is something they will or should know.
Unless you are now the LHoM and you should know or should know who to ask.
 
Probably one of the hardest leadership responsibilities we give to people.

If in doubt, go and ask your EWO and XO. If you don’t feel comfortable in asking those two people, you’re not ready to be a LHoM.
 

PUP545

Midshipman
Have you asked the LHoM yet as I am sure that is something they will or should know.
Unless you are now the LHoM and you should know or should know who to ask.
Probably one of the hardest leadership responsibilities we give to people.

If in doubt, go and ask your EWO and XO. If you don’t feel comfortable in asking those two people, you’re not ready to be a LHoM.
I’ve recently joined and I am at collingwood training at the moment, I’m interested in getting more responsibilities once I’m in the fleet. I’m certain I want to be part of the boarding party and asking to go on an all arms course is a possibility in the future. What kind of responsibilities would you recommend volunteering for/ what kind of responsibilities are out there?
 

Alfacharlie

War Hero
I’ve recently joined and I am at collingwood training at the moment, I’m interested in getting more responsibilities once I’m in the fleet. I’m certain I want to be part of the boarding party and asking to go on an all arms course is a possibility in the future. What kind of responsibilities would you recommend volunteering for/ what kind of responsibilities are out there?
If you’ve only been in five minutes, I would just find your feet on your first sea draft.
 

Waspie

War Hero
I’ve recently joined and I am at collingwood training at the moment, I’m interested in getting more responsibilities once I’m in the fleet. I’m certain I want to be part of the boarding party and asking to go on an all arms course is a possibility in the future. What kind of responsibilities would you recommend volunteering for/ what kind of responsibilities are out there?
1st rule of survival was always "never volunteer". I did alright!!!!

As @Alfacharlie kinda said, don't run before you can walk. Being ships company is sod all like training. (As you will discover). Responsibility is fine, nothing wrong with being focused. But. Be prepared to take shit/bollockings or whatever PC phrase is prevalent these days. If you don't mind taking 'sh1t', responsibility could be your path.

Good luck, but as AC says, find your feet first. Then decide. If you have a good proactive job, you may find you have enough responsibility just doing what you're paid for. You may also alienate yourself from work mates by coming across as too eager! Many facets to this post!!
 

redmonkey

War Hero
Book Reviewer
Get out into the fleet and learn your job.
Concentrate on getting the routine jobs completed and to a high standard. If you know that a daily job needs doing don't wait to be told to do it.

LHoM is not an easy job and you need a thick skin as any trouble caused by the mess will come your way. You have a few years at least before you need to worry about that.
 

crash_evans

War Hero
I won’t labour on the eloquent posts above. Especially [mention]Alfacharlie [/mention].

As per your previous posts, you are an ET of some flavour. If you are hanging out for quick promotion (and there is nothing wrong with that). I would focus on your Phase 2 course to get GTS (gained trained strength). Essentially making you deployable and on the first step towards getting OPS (completing your ET task books at either the engineering training squadrons at Guzz or Pompey).

Now, some MAY get selected for the fast track scheme. Maybe shaving off 18 months of promotion to LH. This isn’t a given and is based on the merits of the rating. I’ve seen some good guys and girls not get selected at their fast track boards and are mightily gutted. The truth is, you could get selected for LH as fast or faster than a non fast track.

With regards to boarding parties and all arms. If you like wearing green and shitting in woods. Maybe join the RM? Not being an arse, the Navy has spent a lot of money on your fixing comms gear. For those that know, the boarding party is a massive ballache. I’ve done it and you don’t get released from your daily jobs on board. It is in addition to, your other jobs.

If you have just done a watch and are looking forward to getting in your farter for some ‘alone time’ in your off watch and you hear hands to boarding stations, that could well be you off for a boarding for another 6 hours. Not much fun. You get to wear green (if that’s your thing) and do weapon handling tests all the time. No many other perks. I quite looked forward to getting my Chiefs so I could stop all that shizzle.

With regards to the all arms course, I’ve know a couple of branches achieve it. Mostly in branches the RM don’t have that specialisation, i.e. MA’s and gunners who go 148 BTY RA. You can’t just decide you fancy it and have a go. It has to be something they want. Naturally there will be other roles that attract the the AACC, I haven’t got my DEPCO’s folder at home to be able to tell you.

There are other options available for those feeling ‘special’ and want to do deep core communication. That’s above the classification of this website and that’s something that is published on the defence inter web. I’ve know one guy do it and he thoroughly enjoyed it. I saw him last month.

Long dit short, as many have said. Get on board, get SQEP, get some whole ship knowledge. The fleet is running white hot at the moment and the chances to go to places and do things most wouldn’t be able to do 10 years ago are becoming the norm. Greater engagement with NATO partners and entering Russian waters or working on CSG.

Just because you work in the MCO doesn’t make you any less important. An old RS said to me years ago “No comms, no bombs” or my personal fave “You can talk about us, but not without us”.


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crash_evans

War Hero
Damn right.
Most hated it. I loved it.
I even volunteered as an LAC, got refused. Why??

You need to punch harder. I did it to let the lads have a night off on DRNG. I got seconds and two omelettes and double duff. Rude not to. I had to re do my hygiene course again though. Apparently you need to wash your hands now. Meh.


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Alfacharlie

War Hero
Boarding party sucked ass as well. Seemed like a good idea the time. Me and a few other piss cans thought it would be ace jumping out of choppers etc. Get out the ops room and all that.
Fucked about in HMS Cambridge doing the training etc. Then at sea... as @crash_evans said, it was utter utter ****.
 
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