laser eye surgery

#1
Hay people...

I am having eye laser surgery to gain entry to the Navy... As I am only va3 and need to be at least Va2 for entry....... Has anyone else had laser surgery for gaining entry???

I asked my Careers office about laser surgery and they said you ARE allowed to have it done but all depends on the out come after 12 months of having it done.. I am pretty sure I will be fine as my eyes are pretty standered for surgery so I was told by ultra lase.

Any one in, or been, in the same boat as this???
 
#8
Do your research before you commit to this! There are no guarantees and although I have not had the procedure myself I know many people who have.It seems that there can be problems with night vision for some which would affect your duties obviously in the RN. Also some people end up wearing their glasses after anyway.Good luck
 

x4nd

Lantern Swinger
#9
monty_trials said:
Strange as i have not asked this before.... So their is no one else on here who has had laser surgery done then??
Strange, but as Ninja Stokers answer shows, yes you have.

:toilet:
 
#10
Hey Bro,

Lasik is perfectly acceptable, even in Marines, etc. Had it myself some time ago, just let them know and you'll have to get the surgeon to give them a copy of the report in case there are complications. There seldom are. Been surfing, playing rugby, everything and my eyes are 100%. Actually my vision is better than 20-20 now, (20-10, from having been -3.50, with astigmatism to add).

Word of advice: get it done asap, so that your follow-up appointments at the optometrist are complete, along with your healing, by the time Raleigh comes along.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#11
Talking of Laser Eye surgery- anyone seen that new TV advert for UltraLase?

There's a bloke stood next to the Angel of the North, gazing at the scenery with a daft grin, suggesting he can now see for miles, whilst a commentator waffles on about how many different ways they can shoot lasers into your eyeballs.

I reckon they should've had a before and after shot: The Before bit being him squinting, face screwed up, teeth bared, staring at the Angel of the North, uttering the immortal line.... "Erm, is it, erm... 'T'?"
 
#12
If you're going to have it done, do not use a "high street" service. Get it done by an ophthalmic surgeon who specialises in surgery to the cornea.
 
#13
Obelix said:
Hey Bro,

Lasik is perfectly acceptable, even in Marines, etc. Had it myself some time ago, just let them know and you'll have to get the surgeon to give them a copy of the report in case there are complications. There seldom are. Been surfing, playing rugby, everything and my eyes are 100%. Actually my vision is better than 20-20 now, (20-10, from having been -3.50, with astigmatism to add).

Word of advice: get it done asap, so that your follow-up appointments at the optometrist are complete, along with your healing, by the time Raleigh comes along.
Cool!!! I have got it booked this Monday I am going for the most expensive one, think it could be lasik with the extra laser with no knife, cant remember the name of it as they all sound the same.... Its going to cost £3700!!! But you cant put a price on eye sight. Where did you have it done? As I am having it done with ULTRA LASE
 

Ben_C

Lantern Swinger
#15
From what i have heard/read the laser corrective surgery is only good for 'x' amount of years. Do the RN not accept people with lower eyesight, but provide them with the correct glasses/contacts? Or is this no deemed suitable because of the nature of the work involved.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#16
monty_trials said:
Cool!!! I have got it booked this Monday I am going for the most expensive one, think it could be lasik with the extra laser with no knife, cant remember the name of it as they all sound the same.... Its going to cost £3700!!! But you cant put a price on eye sight. As I am having it done with ULTRA LASE
Son of Norm,

Are you completely ignorant of the previous replies to the last two threads YOU posted on this very issue?

Before you waste an awful lot of money try reading the responses- pay particular attention to the red bits:

Ninja_Stoker said:
Here y'are Monty, standard reply sent to all persons considering laser surgery:

Thank you for your enquiry regarding eyesight corrective laser surgery (corneal refractive surgery) and the relevant Royal Navy Policy. The Naval Service does not endorse the use of laser surgery as a method to gain entry and there is no guarantee that such treatment will improve vision to an acceptable standard.

The Naval Service requires individuals to serve anywhere in the world, in extremes of climate and operational situations, which are remote from primary and secondary care. Therefore, even minor conditions such as the use of correcting lenses can take on much greater significance when even basic support is limited. As a consequence, medical screening is stringent and to a higher standard than might be expected for normal civilian employment.

In general, any defect or weakness of sight will be a bar to entry if these defects render an individual incapable of, or likely to be incapable of performing general duties in the Naval Service. The tri-Service standard for uncorrected visual acuity is right eye 6/60 and left eye> 6/60.

With regard to surgical correction of myopia or hypermetropia, it is acknowledged that the following methods are now considered suitable for entry on an individual case by case basis for non-specialist employment groups and subject to single Service requirements:

(a) Photorefractive Keratectomy (PRK)

(b) Laser Epithelial Keratomileusis (LASEK)

(c) Intrastromal Corneal Rings (ICRs), otherwise known as Intrastromal
Segments (ICS).

Entry will not be considered for Radical Keratotomy (RK), or Astigmatic Keratotomy (AK), or any other form of incisional refractive surgery, other than those procedures listed above. All invasive intraocular surgical procedures will remain a bar to entry.

In order to be considered a candidate must fulfil the following criteria and provide documentary evidence to support that:

(a) The pre-operative refractive error was not more than +6.00 or 6.00diopter (spherical equivalent) in either eye and;

(b) The best spectacle corrected visual acuity is 6/9 or better in each eye and;

(c) At least 12 months have elapsed since the date of the last surgery or enhancement procedure and;

(d) There has been no significant visual side effects secondary to the surgery affecting daily activities and;

(e) Refraction is stable; as defined by two refractions performed on each eye at least 6 months apart, with no more than 0.50 diopter difference in the spherical equivalent in each eye.

(f) Specialist visual function testing has been carried out with satisfactory results at least 12 months following surgery, including assessment of refraction, symmetry of visual acuity, high and low contrast sensitivity (with and without glare sources), astigmatism, glare, corneal clarity, masked mild hypermetropia and night vision.

An applicant who has undergone eyesight corrective laser surgery must supply evidence of the above and may be subject to evaluation by a Service Ophthalmic Consultant. Each case is considered on an individual basis and if all the criteria are met it may be possible to consider an application to enter the Naval Service.

Decisions regarding any kind of ophthalmic surgery should be discussed with an Ophthalmic Consultant.
This letter should be taken to ophthalmic consultations where eyesight corrective laser surgery is to be discussed with a view to achieving the necessary eyesight standards for entry.
Even for someone using the same IP address as Norman & all all his various guises, I would not wish you to waste your money unecessarily- I would implore you to read & inwardly digest the above advice before embarking on a waste of money.
 

BigSi

Midshipman
#17
I have had lazer surgery by ultralase and i am well happy with results. you may have some halo effects around lights which may cause some probs if you ever have to get involved in the world of collision regs etc... BUT it was the best thing i ever spent money on and made such a difference to me.. have a look at the laser surgery forum on the ultralase website it gives both sides of the story
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#18
BigSi said:
I have had lazer surgery and i am well happy with results. you may have some halo effects around lights which may cause some probs if you ever have to get involved in the world of collision regs etc...
Si,

It's all very well once you've joined, however he has not joined yet & wants to be WS(Sea)- collision regs are most definitely an issue. My point is that although a lot of people think it's a great way of improving your eyesight , it is not recommended as a means of gaining entry- there are many types that make you ineligible to join ANY trade in the service.

Your eyesight MUST be within acceptable limits for your chosen trade before surgery & you need to be able to prove it- you must also be 12 months clear of surgery.

Each to their own I s'pose, you can only tell people the same thing a number of times before you each get bored.
 
#19
Ben_C said:
From what i have heard/read the laser corrective surgery is only good for 'x' amount of years. Do the RN not accept people with lower eyesight, but provide them with the correct glasses/contacts? Or is this no deemed suitable because of the nature of the work involved.
The surgery has a life time guarantee...So if they start to go back to the way they where before then I have have them re done. I think also eye sight in the forces is more on what your sight is when you first join... If they get worse over the years it does not really matter, just as long as you are not a pilot......I have got the surgery tomorrow so the point of no return is getting close lol
 
#20
Ninja_Stoker said:
monty_trials said:
Cool!!! I have got it booked this Monday I am going for the most expensive one, think it could be lasik with the extra laser with no knife, cant remember the name of it as they all sound the same.... Its going to cost £3700!!! But you cant put a price on eye sight. As I am having it done with ULTRA LASE
Son of Norm,

Are you completely ignorant of the previous replies to the last two threads YOU posted on this very issue?

Before you waste an awful lot of money try reading the responses- pay particular attention to the red bits:

Ninja_Stoker said:
Here y'are Monty, standard reply sent to all persons considering laser surgery:

Thank you for your enquiry regarding eyesight corrective laser surgery (corneal refractive surgery) and the relevant Royal Navy Policy. The Naval Service does not endorse the use of laser surgery as a method to gain entry and there is no guarantee that such treatment will improve vision to an acceptable standard.

The Naval Service requires individuals to serve anywhere in the world, in extremes of climate and operational situations, which are remote from primary and secondary care. Therefore, even minor conditions such as the use of correcting lenses can take on much greater significance when even basic support is limited. As a consequence, medical screening is stringent and to a higher standard than might be expected for normal civilian employment.

In general, any defect or weakness of sight will be a bar to entry if these defects render an individual incapable of, or likely to be incapable of performing general duties in the Naval Service. The tri-Service standard for uncorrected visual acuity is right eye 6/60 and left eye> 6/60.

With regard to surgical correction of myopia or hypermetropia, it is acknowledged that the following methods are now considered suitable for entry on an individual case by case basis for non-specialist employment groups and subject to single Service requirements:

(a) Photorefractive Keratectomy (PRK)

(b) Laser Epithelial Keratomileusis (LASEK)

(c) Intrastromal Corneal Rings (ICRs), otherwise known as Intrastromal
Segments (ICS).

Entry will not be considered for Radical Keratotomy (RK), or Astigmatic Keratotomy (AK), or any other form of incisional refractive surgery, other than those procedures listed above. All invasive intraocular surgical procedures will remain a bar to entry.

In order to be considered a candidate must fulfil the following criteria and provide documentary evidence to support that:

(a) The pre-operative refractive error was not more than +6.00 or 6.00diopter (spherical equivalent) in either eye and;

(b) The best spectacle corrected visual acuity is 6/9 or better in each eye and;

(c) At least 12 months have elapsed since the date of the last surgery or enhancement procedure and;

(d) There has been no significant visual side effects secondary to the surgery affecting daily activities and;

(e) Refraction is stable; as defined by two refractions performed on each eye at least 6 months apart, with no more than 0.50 diopter difference in the spherical equivalent in each eye.

(f) Specialist visual function testing has been carried out with satisfactory results at least 12 months following surgery, including assessment of refraction, symmetry of visual acuity, high and low contrast sensitivity (with and without glare sources), astigmatism, glare, corneal clarity, masked mild hypermetropia and night vision.

An applicant who has undergone eyesight corrective laser surgery must supply evidence of the above and may be subject to evaluation by a Service Ophthalmic Consultant. Each case is considered on an individual basis and if all the criteria are met it may be possible to consider an application to enter the Naval Service.

Decisions regarding any kind of ophthalmic surgery should be discussed with an Ophthalmic Consultant.
This letter should be taken to ophthalmic consultations where eyesight corrective laser surgery is to be discussed with a view to achieving the necessary eyesight standards for entry.
Even for someone using the same IP address as Norman & all all his various guises, I would not wish you to waste your money unecessarily- I would implore you to read & inwardly digest the above advice before embarking on a waste of money.
Yes I was given this form after my interview, as long as my sight meets the standered after surgery then it should be ok...I am haveing (b) Laser Epithelial Keratomileusis (LASEK) So I belive this will be allowed for entry but it will all depend on the out come after 12 months I guess
 

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