Labelling the BNP

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  1. I just picked this up on the Conservative Home Blog about the BNP, some interesting positioning from the author.

    Head of Politics within the BBC's Editorial Unit agrees that it is better to avoid giving the BNP any label

    Griffin Nick A little while ago I emailed the BBC about the BNP being described as "Far Right" by Today's John Humphys.

    My full post is here but this was the thrust of my argument:

    "In some ways their professed patriotism might put them on the traditional right of the political spectrum although it is, of course, true that many on the Left also love their country. I would argue, however, that many of their policies come from a Left-wing, big state mindset. This partly explains their success in traditionally Labour areas. I think, for example, of the BNP's support for high rates of taxation on higher income earners, their support for nationalising strategically important economic assets and also their protectionist policies on trade."
  2. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Good POV, but I believe the success [sic] of the BNP in traditional Labour areas is more likely to be as a result of political apathy (in the whole), rather than specific support for any of their 'left-of-centre' policies... the BNP's clever turn of phrase to tempt the voting public, speaking thieir language (and taking the "my enemy's enemy is my friend" standpoint) appeals to those who are easily persuaded by soundbites rather than analysing poltical fact. Regrettable, but true, I think.
  3. So, the BNP appears to be a Nationalist/Socialist pro-working class party. Surprised no-one has thought of that combination before.
  4. Lifelong Labour voters who fall out with their party would never vote Tory or Liberal for fear of being struck by lightening. I reckon their votes for BNP are a temporary stab in the eye for "them at the top of Labour" rather than a serious attempt to adopt BNP "values". Just my thoughts as the son of a lifelong Labour voter and Miners' Union leader.
  5. As Stalin observed to Molotov upon the signing of the Nazi-Soviet Pact, there was little difference between ("soviet") communism and Hitlerite fascism. There are some clear differences however, most notably in the official race ideology of fascism. In Communist (like Tsarist) Russia unofficial racism was rife, and racial quotas operated by officials with the internal passport system, but officially, this didn't occur!

    Other traits shared by both ideologies:

    Opposition of abortion (generally)

    Concentration/labour camps for dissidents of the regime, etc

    Abuse of psychiatry - though this has been used in the West and continues to be used by conservatice Christian movements to marginalise certain groups such as women and homosexuals

    Social conservatism
  6. Here's an anagram of my label for them: CNUTS

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