Just a few quick questions guys

#1
As some of you know i'm off to Raleigh to start my WE(SM) training ( after basic of course) I just have a few questions for you guys & girls!

1. Do I become a able rating after i've got my dolphins and how long would it take to become leading rating ( on average )

2. Can you become an officer from a rating??

3. Because( hopefully) i'll become a proud submariner do I get to serve on boats alot? or will I just be stuck at shore!?

Thanks guys.

These questions I could not get answered on the RN site!

:afro:
 
#2
Firstly, you've both an 'S' and a 'M' in your name. Is that allowed seeing as you're not a submariner ;)

Going Officer from Rating is VERY difficult but not impossible.
How long it takes to become a Leading Hand depends purely on you.
As for serving on Boats mate, haven't a clue :)
 
#4
Lamri said:
Firstly, you've both an 'S' and a 'M' in your name. Is that allowed seeing as you're not a submariner ;)

Going Officer from Rating is VERY difficult but not impossible.
How long it takes to become a Leading Hand depends purely on you.
As for serving on Boats mate, haven't a clue :)

PMSL mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#8
Ok buddy .after your training you will go to the RNSMS to learn about whatever type of submarine your about to be drafted to. You will also do the escape tank. You will then get drafted to your first boat. Whilst you are on this , you will have to pass something called a ''part 3'' this will cover all the systems on the submarine and you will have a few walk rounds with members of the crew to test your knowledge. When you have finished this .You will then be awarded your Dolphins and then and ONLY then you can call your self a submariner.

As for the officer stuff ,sorry mate not sure.
 
#9
Thanks deeps

How long does part 3 take? A while i'm guessing

Any one know about leading hand and how long it takes on average if you work at it? and what do you have to do to get promoted?
 
#10
It depends on if the boat you are joining is going to sea. I would think somewhere around 2-3 months mate.If you join a boat thats in maint,you will get a load draft to another seagoing boat to your part 3 done.
 
#14
I don't think he's been answered about the "going out on boats a lot".

I can contribute a small amount; WillMuSe, it all depends on the type of boat you serve on.

V-Class go under for 3 months solid with no rising about once every 9 months (So I've been told) and T and S-Class both go on various tours for various amounts of times stopping off now and again in various different places.

Guess which I'm hoping to get drafted to?
 

ChrisA

Lantern Swinger
#15
Will, here's a snippet from a PM Ninja sent me - I asked pretty much the same questions. (Hope he doesn't mind me posting).

I'm joining the Surface Fleet as a CIS Specialist so not all of it is relevant but some of it might be transferable.

On your first ship you will at first "double-up" with a trained CIS, completing a Task Book. Basically you are putting all the theory you have been taught into practice- proving you have learnt the job. The task book, as the name implies has a series of tasks which you must complete, witnessed under supervision, individually "signed-off" by a Leading Hand or Senior Rate (depending on the task). Once you've satisfactorily completed a task, you can then do that particular one unsupervised. Some are very basic, "whole ship" tasks (which everyone has to do) rather than branch specific & some a bit more involved.

Once you complete your task book - the speed is up to you, you are then advanced to Able Rate (AB) , Level One on the higher spine. Task books can take from as little as 6months to 18 to complete.

After your first sea draft you will undertake your CIS qualifying course at Collingwood again, which then makes you eligible to go back to sea & then complete your Leading Hand Task Book- if you wish. From what I can recall, you must be over 19 years old to become a Leading Rate & 21 for Petty Officer (Roughly).
Joining to AB, approx 1 year
AB to Leading hand 2-3 years
Leading Hand to Petty Officer 2-3 years

Bear in mind timescales do change subject to branch rcquirements, but in theory from joining, you could be a Leading Hand in 3 years, and a Petty Officer in 5 years. It would be fair to say that the majority don't attempt promotion that fast, but it is possible.

As for Officer promotion from within the service, assuming you already have the basic 5 GCSE's including Maths & English, grade C or better, you can apply for selection anytime after becoming an AB & you should make it known, after you've finished training that you would like to be considered for selection.
Hope that helps.
 
#16
It was different in my day (diesel = proper boats!) - took me about 5 years after joining boats to get my hook. In those days it was pretty much "dead mans shoes", ie, waiting for someone to be drafted off the boat, and a vacant rate becoming available.
 

x4nd

Lantern Swinger
#17
willmuse said:
As some of you know i'm off to Raleigh to start my WE(SM) training ( after basic of course) I just have a few questions for you guys & girls!

1. Do I become a able rating after i've got my dolphins and how long would it take to become leading rating ( on average )

2. Can you become an officer from a rating??

3. Because( hopefully) i'll become a proud submariner do I get to serve on boats alot? or will I just be stuck at shore!?

Thanks guys.

These questions I could not get answered on the RN site!

:afro:
1. It’s very hard to give a time scale as to when you’d be likely to become a L/H because there are too many variables to take into account.

2. Yes, you can become an officer from being a rating. Assuming you want to stay WE, you would need to gain a suitable technical qualification.

3. As it stands, once you’re qualified (and not medically downgraded), you won’t spend long “stuck†ashore. Different boats work different routines, so how many days per year you actually spend at sea will depend on which particular boat you join.

:dwarf:
 
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