Discussion in 'History' started by sooms, Nov 23, 2009.

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  1. Gents..

    I've just finished reading 'Battleship' by Martin Middlebrook about the loss of the Prince of Wales and Repulse in 1941. There are several mentions in the book about PoW being considered a 'Jonah' ship by the crew of Repulse and the RN in general.

    My question is..

    In todays more enlightened RN, are some ships still labelled as unlucky and (bearing in mind PoW will be one of the new carriers) does this reputation attach itself to ships with the same name?

    I suppose what I'm trying to get at is whether sailors are still superstitous types?
  2. It's always unlucky to ring the bell in the mess :wink:
  3. Never steer the ship's head on a bearing of 232 degrees
  4. 13th in the NAAFI queue was generally considered a bad omen.

  5. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    ...join a ship late in the deployment and you're guaranteed to be be duty at Christmas! :wink:
  6. Yes but at least you get new years and can leave the place in a pig sty for them to clear up!
  7. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    SLIBBERS!!! :lol:
  8. Yes, I think they still are superstitious....... touch wood !
  9. I thought you meant this poor chap;

  10. HMS Lancaster was originally meant to be F232 but was changed to F229 for this reason.

    Ever noticed how the Type 23 pennant numbers go in order otherwise?

    HMS Norfolk (F230), Yarrows; July 10, 1987; June 1, 1990
    HMS Argyll (F231), Yarrows; April 8, 1989; May 31, 1991
    HMS Lancaster (F229), Yarrows; May 24, 1990; May 1, 1992
    HMS Marlborough (F233), Swan Hunter; January 21, 1989; June 14, 1991
    HMS Iron Duke (F234), Yarrows; March 2, 1991; May 20, 1993
    HMS Monmouth (F235), Yarrows; November 23, 1991; Sept 24, 1993
    HMS Montrose (F236), Yarrows; July 31, 1992; June 2, 1994
    HMS Westminster (F237), Swan Hunter; February 4, 1992; May 13, 1994
    HMS Northumberland (F238), Swan Hunter; April 4, 1992; November 29, 1994
    HMS Richmond (F239), Swan Hunter; April 6, 1993; June 22, 1995
  11. Can't remember where I got it from, but after BARHAM blew up in the Med 1941, an oil soaked geezer reached a Carley float, and began talking to the lads. "You must think I'm a Jonah - I'm Admiral Pridham-Whippel - first the FIJI, now the BARHAM." THAT'S what you call a Jonah !!
  12. sgtpepperband

    sgtpepperband War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    I knew a LSTD on the Brizzle (Craig B*****) who was on board Sheffield when it was hit in '82 - he and other survivors were evacuated onto another T42... HMS Coventry!


  13. Ship Builder Laid Down Launched Commissioned Paid Off Fate

    HMS Tay (K232) Smiths Dock Co., South Bank-on-Tees 10 Sep 1941 18 Mar 1942 5 Aug 1942 Scrapped on 28 Sep 1956. :?:
  14. When Lancaster was refitting in Guzz during 1999 F232 was accidentally painted on by DML.
  15. Just watching National Geographic Channel about United Airlines Flight 232 which crashed at Sioux City with the loss of 132 lives - coincidence or what ?
  16. As 0232 occurs every night perhaps we should all avoid or ban the Middle Watch, too?

    (Slashing Wrists and turning in NOW........) :sleepy:

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