Joining Up - A Thread For Parents/Guardians

[soleil]

In the current COVID world are parents allowed to attend pass out parades?

In the spring, families had to stop attending these, but what happened is that the Royal Navy and Royal Marines Charity issued a grant for the purchase of equipment which then made it possible for families to see it at home live-streamed.

I'm not sure what will happen in the autumn, but I know that there will be other posters who will know.

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[pompeyexpat]

In the current COVID world are parents allowed to attend pass out parades?

After a while with no guests at all as said by Sol, there have been limited numbers attending of late. I can’t say exactly what’s been happening at Raleigh but there were guests at the
Parade at BRNC last week, albeit fewer than normal and with no visitors allowed inside college buildings.

 

[Adonis]

Ok thanks, have to book ferry or flights so would be handy to know

 

[soleil]

Ok thanks, have to book ferry or flights so would be handy to know

When would it be, Adonis?

 

[WreckerL]

At the moment Raleigh are allowing 2 guests per trainee and they only witness the passing out parade.

 

[Adonis]

Ok thanks hopefully would be november

 

[WreckerL]

It may have all changed by then, you never know what is happening these days but if I hear of any changes I'll post them on here.

 

[Adonis]

Thanks

 

[Rainman]

Will my son get kicked out of Raleigh if he can't run fast enough.

My son (age 24) is currently at Raleigh, but is home for the summer leave.

When he goes back he is going to CREAN for additional kit muster training, for I think 1 week.

His real problem is he hasn't passed the week 5, 2.4km run, and has his final chance when he goes back in September.

His current time is 11.39 and he has to do it in 11:09 minimum.
for the last 2 weeks I have been going out every day with him (I'm riding a bike to pace him), but he is struggling to get faster. He runs the 2.4km as fast as he can, followed by a steady run back and ending in an 800m sprint.

He recovers quickly, so I think his overall fitness is quite good.

We have had 2 sessions with a personal trainer to see why he isn't getting faster, and he has identified a few things like better breathing and muscle stretches as he appears to have very tight tendons resulting in a short stride.

I've been desperately trying to find a treadmill to get his body used to the pace he needs, but no luck, though I believe Pure Gym in Scotland are opening on Monday, but time is rapidly running out.

 

[WreckerL]

Unfortunately people have been discharged for continually failing their fitness tests, it's fairly common tbh.

 

[Rainman]

The gym finally opens today, and he ran the 2.4k at 13km/h in 11:04, but it was very hard.

The problem seems to be is that he is finding it difficult to pace himself outdoors, and finds it hard to widen his stride due to tight tendons, where the treadmill forces him. The PT’s have observed that about his stride.

Would Raleigh even consider letting him run it on a treadmill to prove he has the pace they want.

 

[Alfacharlie]

The gym finally opens today, and he ran the 2.4k at 13km/h in 11:04, but it was very hard.

The problem seems to be is that he is finding it difficult to pace himself outdoors, and finds it hard to widen his stride due to tight tendons, where the treadmill forces him. The PT’s have observed that about his stride.

Would Raleigh even consider letting him run it on a treadmill to prove he has the pace they want.

I think this is the best post.
Good luck.

 

[pompeyexpat]

The gym finally opens today, and he ran the 2.4k at 13km/h in 11:04, but it was very hard.

The problem seems to be is that he is finding it difficult to pace himself outdoors, and finds it hard to widen his stride due to tight tendons, where the treadmill forces him. The PT’s have observed that about his stride.

Would Raleigh even consider letting him run it on a treadmill to prove he has the pace they want.

In short, no.

 

[Rainman]

Why is that, as his PJFT running test was on a treadmill.
I thought it was about testing VO2 max.

 

[pompeyexpat]

The PJFT is about proving that the potential recruit is at a minimum standard commensurate with the physical standard required at the start of training, which is why that standard is some way lower than that required to pass an RNFT.

If nothing else it’s impractical to conduct RNFTs using a treadmill. Testing is carried out en masse, to do the test using treadmills for the numbers being tested would mean the whole procedure takes far too long. To allow one individual to take the test on a treadmill would be to disadvantage the others.

The simple fact is the RNFT is either a 2.4km run on a measured flat course, or a MSFT. (With the Rockport Walk for those medically exempt impact phys or those over 40, if they choose not to complete a maximal test). It won’t be modified to suit individual preferences.

I really don’t want to sound unsympathetic; but if there’s a physical reason your son can’t run 2.4km inside a set time on the the road then that probably needs investigating. For a healthy individual with no physical issues the RNFT shouldn’t present a problem.

 

[Alfacharlie]

The PJFT is about proving that the potential recruit is at a minimum standard commensurate with the physical standard required at the start of training, which is why that standard is some way lower than that required to pass an RNFT.

If nothing else it’s impractical to conduct RNFTs using a treadmill. Testing is carried out en masse, to do the test using treadmills for the numbers being tested would mean the whole procedure takes far too long. To allow one individual to take the test on a treadmill would be to disadvantage the others.

The simple fact is the RNFT is either a 2.4km run on a measured flat course, or a MSFT. (With the Rockport Walk for those medically exempt impact phys or those over 40, if they choose not to complete a maximal test). It won’t be modified to suit individual preferences.

I really don’t want to sound unsympathetic; but if there’s a physical reason your son can’t run 2.4km inside a set time on the the road then that probably needs investigating. For a healthy individual with no physical issues the RNFT shouldn’t present a problem.

How old is he??

 

[soleil]

How old is he??

I think that Rainman says further up that he's 24, AC.

 

[Rainman]

I think he could have an issue, as he has been noted at Raleigh as having one leg slightly shorter than the other, and when he runs he makes the Earth shake. We went to see a trainer, and he has got very tight hamstrings, and his hip muscles in one hip need more work to improve mobility.

It probably sounds worse than it is, as Raleigh have never pulled him up as being a medical concern.

He has been working really hard to get faster, and we are going to keep ramping it up this week to give him the best chance, but it’s heartbreaking to think he could fail if he cannot reach 11:09 on the track, when we know he can on the treadmill.

 

[Rainman]

I think that Rainman says further up that he's 24, AC.

I realise that the RN is all about giving your all, and everyone says that 11:09 is very slow, but if he was 7 months older, and so 25, he would pass, though only just.

 

[Alfacharlie]

I think that Rainman says further up that he's 24, AC.

Haven’t read full thread.
but @Rainman maybe running technique is a major factor. If I was him, I’d can the treadmill and hit the road. Hill sprints and interval training will help. 400m sprint, jog for 400m x as much as possible.
Hill sprints:
Just keep going without injuring yourself.
Hope this helps keep.
Stretch each morning and hammer the swimming.
Also to add:
I am a qualified PT as well, before anyone pipes up saying I shouldn’t be offering advice.