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Joining Medical Drugs Test

DevNull

Midshipman
I'm just curious as to how the drugs test during the medical is administered; is it simply a urine test, or do they take a hair (or even blood) sample?

I can't seem to find a clear answer to this even after searching. (Mainly people saying "you shouldn't worry if you have nothing to hide")
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
I'm just curious as to how the drugs test during the medical is administered; is it simply a urine test, or do they take a hair (or even blood) sample?

I can't seem to find a clear answer to this even after searching. (Mainly people saying "you shouldn't worry if you have nothing to hide")
The Compulsory Drugs Test is a urine sample undertaken during Initial Naval Training and at random intervals thereafter.

There can be only one reason why a person would enquire about the specific methodology, Jack. Tread carefully.
 

DevNull

Midshipman
The Compulsory Drugs Test is a urine sample undertaken during Initial Naval Training and at random intervals thereafter.

There can be only one reason why a person would enquire about the specific methodology, Jack. Tread carefully.

I know it sounds like a bad question to ask, but I'm not some prolific drug user.

I was just worried about the test being a hair sample one, as drugs can be detected in them for as long as you have the hair. With a urine test I would be fine.

And to be fair, I wasn't breaking the law as I was in Amsterdam.
 

soleil

War Hero
DN

I think that it would be in your interests not to allow yourself to be in any situations where drugs are particularly likely to be offered to you from now on.
 

RCJ

Newbie
It's still against the law in the Uk and majorly frowned upon in the armed forces. Bear in mind once in the Navy you can go to many different ports where drug laws are different.

If your serious about a career in the armed forces, I'd make sure you had the longest time between you and a test, and make Amsterdam your final blowout so to speak.


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Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
I know it sounds like a bad question to ask, but I'm not some prolific drug user.

I was just worried about the test being a hair sample one, as drugs can be detected in them for as long as you have the hair. With a urine test I would be fine.

And to be fair, I wasn't breaking the law as I was in Amsterdam.
The service accepts that a potentially large number of those joining the Armed Forces will have experimented with recreational drugs prior to joining.

As you clearly recognise that the service has a zero tolerance drugs policy for those serving, the first compulsory drugs test and the service are sophisticated enough to discriminate between habitual long term drugs use and a distant occurrence.

The defence of "it was legal in that country" does not apply after joining, as many have discovered to their cost.

The issue is attitude to discipline & authority whilst serving.

If the only reason you are no longer using recreational drugs is so that you may join the Armed Forces, then seek employment elsewhere, it saves a lot of grief. As long as the drugs policy that goes with the job is accepted, then there isn't an issue.
 

DevNull

Midshipman
Well I do find it funny how they don't care at all about how much alcohol you consume upon joining, which is clearly more harmful than some outlawed substances.

But such is the wisdom of the UK's drug legislation.
 

danny

War Hero
Well I do find it funny how they don't care at all about how much alcohol you consume upon joining, which is clearly more harmful than some outlawed substances.

But such is the wisdom of the UK's drug legislation.

Are you serving? If so I'm surprised you would say this anymore.
 

DevNull

Midshipman
Are you serving? If so I'm surprised you would say this anymore.

No I'm not. And how so?

I understand the RN aids in preventing the import/export of harmful drugs, and rightfully so. All I'm saying is, I don't believe that some substances that are currently illegal to posses (due to UK drugs legislation) deserve to be, particularly those that are less harmful than alcohol and tobacco for example.
 
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guestm

Guest
No I'm not. And how so?

I understand the RN aids in preventing the import/export of harmful drugs, and rightfully so. All I'm saying is, I don't believe that some substances that are currently illegal to posses (due to UK drugs legislation) deserve to be, particularly those that are less harmful than alcohol and tobacco for example.

Bore off.

The most boring people in the known universe are people who **** on about how certain drugs should be legal. If you honestly think LSD should be legalised, you're a cretin. Drugs are illegal, alcohol isn't. Live with it. Plus, your argument is flawed as cannabis is as carcinogenic as tobacco. Benzyprene, end of discussion.
 
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DevNull

Midshipman
Bore off.

The most boring people in the known universe are people who **** on about how certain drugs should be legal. If you honestly think LSD should be legalised, you're a cretin. Drugs are illegal, alcohol isn't. Live with it. Plus, your argument is flawed as cannabis is as carcinogenic as tobacco. Benzyprene, end of discussion.

But why do you think LSD should be illegal? Do you honestly believe it causes more harm than alcohol?

And if cannabis is as carcinogenic as tobacco, why not outlaw tobacco?

There's just no logic to it. If they were to ban alcohol and tobacco too, then at least their drugs policies would make sense and be consistent.
 
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guestm

Guest
But why do you think LSD should be illegal? Do you honestly believe it causes more harm than alcohol?

And if cannabis is as carcinogenic as tobacco, why not outlaw tobacco?

There's just no logic to it. If they were to ban alcohol and tobacco too, then at least their drugs policies would make sense and be consistent.

Ever used LSD? Seen anyone who has? Impulse control and reason is absolutely shot. That's your reason.
 
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