Jewish Chronicle: "Jewish Man Becomes Royal Navy Admiral"

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Like 99% of people here, 'Never heard of him".

We have now, already :wink: because Wiki has this:

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Jeffrey Sterling, Baron Sterling of Plaistow
From Wikipedia,(January 2010)

Jeffrey Sterling, Baron Sterling of Plaistow, GCVO, CBE, is a British businessman. He was executive chairman of the shipping line P&O from 1983 to 2005, having joined the board as a non-executive Director on 6 February 1980. He is now Life President of P&O Cruises.

He founded Motability, a charity providing cars for people with disabilities in 1977 and today is Chairman of the organisation.

He was appointed a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in 1977 and was knighted in the 1985 New Year’s Honours List, for public services and services to industry. He was created a life peer as Baron Sterling of Plaistow, of Pall Mall in the City of Westminster in 1990 peer in Mrs Margaret Thatcher’s resignation honours list.

He holds an honorary commission in the Royal Naval Reserve of Commodore and is associated with HMS President.

In 2002, he served as Chairman of the Golden Jubilee Weekend Trust, in commemoration of The Queen's reign of 50 years as sovereign.

In March 2007 Lord Sterling announced that he would be buying the Swan Hellenic brand from Carnival Corporation & plc.

In April 2007, Lord Sterling brokered a deal with Roger Allard's All Leisure Holidays, operator of cruise company, Voyages of Discovery to purchase his Brand Swan Hellenic. Together they acquired cruise ship Explorer 2 to be renamed Minerva 1. Swan Hellenic will begin its new Summer season in March 2008 with Lord Sterling to remain as Chairman.
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BZ, Sir. :wink:
 
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angrydoc

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BOOTWU's post suggests the noble Lord holds an Honorary Commission with the RNR. The JC suggests he is an RN RAdm. Which is correct? Is this yet another example of the media completely misunderstanding the structure of the RN / Armed Forces?
 

Ninja_Stoker

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#6
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At risk of sounding like Norman, you would think that with our ratio of Admirals to Ratings, that we would know them all personally, but as my entire operational Naval career was spent working on or with warships, the name escapes me also.

Whilst the majority of service personnel only profess their religion when they want something, such as promotion to Officer or deliverance when the poo hits the fan, it's good to see a prominent Jewish person in the "fleet". (As long as he's not drawing an Admiral's wage also- Now there's an FOI Act query for our Norm).

It's somewhat surprising, given the amount of Muslims who join the service (Engineering Officers in particular) in relation to Jewish individuls, that I cannot recall meeting one at Flag Rank also.
 
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Takes it up to 30 Rear admirals on £100,900 now :wink: plus 9 Vice Admirals on £120,000 and 2 Admirals on £167,000 :wink: Oh! forgot 84 Commodores on £97,000 for 40 Warships :lol: :lol:
 
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I was interested in this because of the Plaistow reference, i used to go to plaistow nearly every weekend to watch the not very mighty Hammers play, i never knew they had a Baron. Having looked at the list of peers i found one for Stepney (my home) he's Peter David Shore Baron Shore of Stepney in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets.
Knowing nothing about peers and the like, can anyone explain what power they have in that borough and what exactly theyre supposed to do. any links would be good. some history etc
 
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fluffyspanners said:
I was interested in this because of the Plaistow reference, i used to go to plaistow nearly every weekend to watch the not very mighty Hammers play, i never knew they had a Baron. Having looked at the list of peers i found one for Stepney (my home) he's Peter David Shore Baron Shore of Stepney in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets.
Knowing nothing about peers and the like, can anyone explain what power they have in that borough and what exactly theyre supposed to do. any links would be good. some history etc
Former MP Peter Shore was created Lord Shore/Baron Shore of Stepney, in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets as a life peer on 5 June 1997. He has no particular power in that borough, just as former 1SL Admiral Sir Alan West, who was created Lord West/Baron West of Spithead GCB DSC PC, of Seaview in the County of Isle of Wight as a life peer on 9 July 2007, has no particular power either at Spithead or in Seaview, IOW.

Peerage
Wikipedia said:
Geographic association

A territorial designation is often added to the main peerage title, especially in the case of Barons and Viscounts: for instance, Baroness Thatcher, of Kesteven in the County of Lincolnshire or Viscount Montgomery of Alamein, of Hindhead in the County of Surrey. Any designation after the comma does not form a part of the main title. Territorial designations in titles are not updated with local government reforms, but new creations do take them into account. Thus there is a Baron Knollys, of Caversham in the County of Oxford (created in 1902), and a Baroness Pitkeathley, of Caversham in the Royal County of Berkshire (created in 1997).

It was once the case that a peer administered the place associated with his title, but this has not been true since the Middle Ages. The only remaining peerages with associated lands controlled by the holder are the Duchy of Cornwall, which is associated with the Dukedom of Cornwall, held by the eldest son and heir to the Sovereign, and the Duchy of Lancaster, which is associated with the Dukedom of Lancaster, held by the Sovereign.
 
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so can the government just pick a borough that hasnt a baron, duke, viscount etc and just make someone a peer of it, just a title to put after there name?
 
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fluffyspanners said:
so can the government just pick a borough that hasnt a baron, duke, viscount etc and just make someone a peer of it, just a title to put after there name?
I'm no expert on the nobility but as I understand it, the recipient of a life peerage can choose the geographic area with which he/she wishes to be associated. There is usually no objection as long as no one else can lay claim to it. See here for a list of life peerages granted between 1997 and the present. One of the best known recent enoblements was Baron Sugar, of Clapton in the London Borough of Hackney. Note the significance of the comma. If Alan Sugar were a hereditary peer ranking higher than Baron, he would be able to call himself Lord Clapton and use the sole word 'Clapton' as his signature (as once used to comic effect in an episode of 'Fawlty Towers').
 
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thanks NG, i checked out that link, cameron has already made 59 peers already, i was surprised at the titles as i always assumed that they were old counties and that sort of thing but theres loads of crappy boroughs round london,(shoreditch!!) that now have a baron.
i remember that Fawlty Towers, when he got them two bricks out the case, i was in tears laughing.. classic
will have to do a bit more reading, i fancy being Baron of Openshaw of the county of greater madchester, that should stop the kids kicking my wing mirrors off every weekend!!
 

Ninja_Stoker

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angrydoc said:
If he is still Honorary, he doesn't get paid!
Good-oh. (Already.)

Presumably the *742 Honorary Midshipmen in the URNU organisation no longer draw RNR pay or bounty either. :wink:

Particularly in light of this, following on top of the reduction of 2700 new joiners to 1500 this year:

drakdi said:
Just so you know
"The Defence Board has made the decision to reduce the number of RN new entries between now and 31 March 2011 by 75 officers and 400 ratings. The Army and the RAF have received similar instructions to reduce their intakes of new entries too.


http://www.navy-net.co.uk/Forums/posting/mode=quote/p=480839.html

Honorary, Schmonorary.


* Of which an average of 28 per year joined the service over the last 10 years.
 
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