Japanese War crimes... new revellations...

moondog

War Hero
Not surprising from a race that used living POWs for bayonet practice.
The list of atrocities carried out by Japanese forces in China and the Pacific during the war is horrific and endless,yet very few were brought to justice.
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
Sins of the father?

As grim as AAC's linked story is; Rwanda, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Fred West, Saddam Hussein.................etc. Would you rather go on a holiday to 21st Century Japan or '21st Century' Central Africa?

The Japanese have moved on, maybe everyone else should.
 

safewalrus

War Hero
do we ever truly 'move on?' As the old saying goes 'there's nothing new under the sun'

Probably just find better and more secret ways of doing it is all!
 
Seadog said:
The Japanese have moved on, maybe everyone else should.

The Japanese have "moved on" by refusing to acknowledge their war-time atrocities. They have never apologised except in the most grudging way and refuse to include their shameful crimes in their history books. Japanese children know nothing of what was done by their forbears. Victims of their crimes cannot "move on" because the Japanese (such wonderful holiday hosts) won't let them. Arthur Titherington never got the open apology he asked for and which would have allowed him to "move on". And before someone mentions Hiroshima and Nagasaki the atom bomb attacks saved hundreds of thousands of Allied lives and ended the war in the Pacific.
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
With the utmost respect for those who suffered at the hands of Japanese, does the current population / government /monarchy of Japan have a duty to apologise? Some of those Japanese old boys guilty of lesser offences have apologised. The nation, no. Maybe it isn't part of their culture and, there are very few Japanese left with 'living memory'. Furthermore, they got two buckets of instant sunshine in short order and that evens things up (not that that was the idea).

As for teaching Japanese history, warts and all, I can see why it is thought necessary by some in the West. Equally, the Japanese- 'culturally' - may rather forget/pretend Manchuria/WWII didn't happen. Making allowances for cultural sensitivities/differences is a 21st Century hot topic. (Devils' advocate hat on here).

We all wail when the notion of UK PLC apologising for slavery or the Irish potato famine :roll: is mentioned. Apologising in the immediate aftermath may be appropriate, 2-3 generations (or more) later is empty and unnecessary.

Has Italy ever apologised for Rome's conquest?
 
Always_a_Civvy said:
It has just emerged that they dissected living Filipino prisioners so they could learn anatomy better! More below.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article1437667.ece

And of course the Japanese Government is still in denial! :mad: :mad: :mad:

All countrys even Britain at some point in history has commited an offence that it chooses to ignore that ever happened , or even atempt to formally apologise, it a sad fact of human beings in there worst form , for one reason or another.
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
rugger bob wrote
All countrys even Britain at some point in history has commited an offence that it chooses to ignore that ever happened , or even atempt to formally apologise, it a sad fact of human beings in there worst form , for one reason or another
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Are you saying that failure to apologise is worse than the brutal deed(s) for which an apology is thought necessary?
 

neil6814

Badgeman
Buddhists believe in reincarnation and if you do bad things in this life you will suffer in a future life. If you think about this, it means that if you are suffering in this life then you are paying for what you have done previously.
Also the more that you suffer then the better things will be in lives to come.
So if you find someone suffering, then to make them suffer a bit more is really helping them, so why should you apologise.
I'm not a Buddhist
 
Seadog said:
rugger bob wrote
All countrys even Britain at some point in history has commited an offence that it chooses to ignore that ever happened , or even atempt to formally apologise, it a sad fact of human beings in there worst form , for one reason or another
.

Are you saying that failure to apologise is worse than the brutal deed(s) for which an apology is thought necessary?

No Seadog, just pointing out that even the wronged have wronged as well to a similar degree, but I must add that I couldn't even begin to imagine the pain and torment of those people /prisoners etc during the second world war, and would never make light of that - POW'S, JEWS ETC,

I just wish that MAN could learn from its past and never repeat it.
 

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