Israeli (& Jewish ) Neo Nazis

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    Nazi salutes, white supremacy the ish. But they are Israeli citizens and Jewish. WTF!? Telling though from the photographs and film on the TV that their swaztikas are arrse backwards, just like neo nazis. These ones are particularly dim.

    Daily Telegraph 10 Sep
     
  2. We inherited a lot of problems when the wall fell in Berlin and the "cold war" ended, this is one of those results. ^_^;
     
  3. This is yet another example, if more were needed, of the mistaken reaction to Western guilt over the Holocaust. Taking people with any Jewish connection - the Diaspora - and "giving" them a homeland in someone else's country - Palestine - is the reason for the Middle East crisis. This as further proof that to enter another people's country and enforce change is a grave mistake.
     
  4. I don't disagree, but up till about 1950 that was the way things were done. Yes the Jewish homeland was a mistake, but so were many other parcelling up bits of land and calling them countries. The trouble is it is done now and irreversible, we need to get on with life and live with what we have not what we think we should have had.

    As for Israel, the original idea was not so much a Jewish state but the opportunty for Jews to settle in the area of ancient Judea. It was the Zionists after the war who really went for statehood, although they existed before the war the aftermath of the Holocaust really gave the concept impetus.
     
  5. One things got bugger all to do with the other. Maybe the Holocaust was the catalyst for the declaration of the Israeli state, but the existance of neo-nazis in Israeli has no impact on Western feelings about the Holocaust.

    As has been intimated on here time and again, Israel exists, there is no going back. Now all sides have to deal with its existence, no cry over its creation. British history is peppered with ignoramus ideas about state boundaries - take a look at the frontiers of ex-Empire countries to appreciate that.
     
  6. Oh come on, they are nominally Jewish through a Grandparent, they are not actually practising Jews.

    I hardly think a group of immigrant Russian Racists can be the reason to declare that Israel as an idea has failed almost.

    A group of newly arrived, idiot, Racist Russian thugs, hardly reason to say that the West has misplaced Guilt over the Holocaust, Jews in Europe suffered for centuries even here in England, the Magna Carta actually allowed persecution of the Jews under some circumstances. And they were totally expelled from England under King Edward I, and not "emancipated" until 1858. All of Europe was guilty of persecuting the Jews, from Pogroms in Russia to the Holocaust, they suffered purely because of their faith.

    I also think that to call Palestine someone else's country is a massive simplification, it is as much Jewish as it is Islamic or Christian.
     


  7. What utter drivel you write. It would help if you learn the difference between Jews and Zionists and realise that Palestine had a large Jewish population that lived in general harmony with the Palestinians for hundreds of years because the Jews considered themselves to be Palestinians. It was not until the West decided to salve it's collective conscience at Palestinian expense and turn a soveriegn country over to Zionist colonists that the trouble began. Israeli policy is [and always has been] to expand Eretz Israel at any cost. The entire country is based on racism and the treatment of other races as Untermenschen. What other country in the world applies different laws for citizens of different religious beliefs?

    RM
     
  8. There was no Palestinian sovereign country in the region, never has been. The West didn't hand over the region to the Zionists any more than it handed over India to the Hindus (or Pakistan to the Muslims). As for your impression of Israeli expansion, you've demonstrated a poor understanding of Israeli actions and the history in the region. As for the bollocks about racism, there you're spouting Hamas' own propaganda.

    As for application of different laws for citizens of different beliefs, again you're demonstrating ignorance. Let's start with no the law regarding Catholics sitting on the British throne, and we can go on all night.
     
  9. Bergen I am well aware of the difference between Jews and Zionists, and what utter drivel you write, I do recall the recent Israeli action of pulling out of the Gaza Strip, and to what effect? Civil War, with Hamas taking control by force, hardly actions that display that they are deserving to be in power of any state.

    I am also quite appalled that you did not realise that this very country has a racist law in action, in that as Oslo points out no Catholic can sit on the throne. To Describe Israel as having an Untermenschen policy in force is utter tosh, where in Israeli law does it say that a Muslim or a Christian cannot be a citizen of the state? The only thing I can find is that non-Jewish citizens of Israel are exempt from military service.

    As Oslo also points out there has never been a Palestinian State, it was the Arab League that objected to Jerusalem being an International City administered by the UN, it was the Arab League which objected to the creation of one country for the Jews and another for the Arabs. And the Gaza Strip was previously part of Egypt. The whole thing is a mess, agreed, but that is not down to Zionism or the Arabs, and as has been said, what is done is done.
     
  10. Interesting collection of patronising crap from somebody who believes he or she is right, therefore he or she must be right.

    Whilst Palestine was notional, rather than actual, its history as a region goes back to the Old Testament and, as Bergen said, Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews tolerated one another until the good old British Empire decided to get involved. As another proof of the need for a good exit plan before exiting, Israel became a reality and there has been war more or less ever since. Nothing to do with Israelis being arrogant, of course! I hold no brief for the Arab terrorists, but they have living proof that the West will acquiesce to terrorism in the end, whether in Israel, Northern Ireland or Iraq in a little while
     
  11. Sorry c_t_d at which point in the recent Israeli-Hezbollah conflict did Israel acquiesce to the Terrorists? They backed down amongst mounting pressure from the rest of the world, but not to Hezbollah.

    And at which point did Britain acquiesce to the IRA? I was always under the impression that Britain the peace process was the result of negotiation, not the results of bombs, Northern Ireland is still part of the United Kingdom, so where did we back down?
     
  12. You have an extremely biased and unipolar view of history and your arrant stupidity fits your avatar exactly. I think that you are indeed a potential officer and could follow in the footsteps of previous military geniuses of the ilk of General Jackarrse.

    In Israel Arabs make up 18% of the population. They pay taxes and speak Hebrew. They are the remainder of the original Arab population forced out by the Zionists. The rest of the Arab population linger in refugee camps throughout the Middle East and are the primary cause of the present regional conflicts

    Former US President Jimmy Carter wrote a book which called the Zionist policies "a form of apartheid that is far worse than that practiced by South Africa". The Arab population are subject to curfews, administrative detentions, employment restrictions and confiscation of lands and properties. They are required to carry special ID's and have restricted travel privileges in their own country. In europe when the jews were subject to this type of apartheid there was an outcry against the Germans and we called them war-criminals.

    To equate this apartheid to a British constitutional clause which bars a catholic monarchy would be funny under other circumstances.

    RM
     
  13. Funny under other circumstances, you asked which country has a racist law in action and there it was, in this very country. There are two official languages of Israel, Hebrew and Arabic, Arabs are allowed to vote freely for the Knesset, they have their own political parties.

    A 2007 Poll by Haifa University found that amongst others: 62% of Israeli Arabs worry that Israel could transfer their communities to the jurisdiction of a future Palestinian state.

    The Arabic population are stuck in Refugee camps because their so called Muslim Brothers, who normally care so much about the plight of Palestine will not take them in. Furthermore the Arabs were told to leave Israel as they were about to be liberated by other Arab countries.

    If Israel is such a bad place to live for Arabs, why do they move there, in 1949 the Arabic Population of Israel was 160,000 today it is over 1.4 million. Nearly a 10 times increase, that is not a higher birth rate that is immigration.

    As for my "arrant stupidity" may I congratulate you on joining the others on pointing out just how brilliantly I shall be as a Warfare Officer based on the fact that I do not think that Israel is the source of all evil in the Middle East. To be honest, I would much rather trust the Admiralty Interview Board than someone who is so quick to judge the only state in the Middle East to be declared Free by the Reporters Without Borders Organisation. I will be more than glad to prove you wrong, and would much rather follow in the footsteps of military genii.

    Israel has a long way to go, but there are two sides to this problem, and Israel is not the only one who is at fault.
     
  14. It would have helped if you'd picked an example which applies to race rather than flavour of Xianity in this case.
     
  15. Fine, a law which discriminates against on the basis of religion.
     
  16. More twaddle......you certainly have the potential to be an Admiral. You have claimed that Israel won the 2006 Lebanon invasion; some victory even the Israeli enquiry headed by Eliyahu Winogard called it a severe failure and recommended that Eduard Olmert the PM should resign. The CoS General Dan Halutz and the head of the Navy Admiral Amir Peretz did just that before they could be thrown out for incompetence.

    Hezb'allah won that particular encounter simply by not losing.

    It might also interest you to know that Israeli-Moslem demographics frighten the Zionist right-wingers more than the Palestinians ever did. Contrary to your assertion about Arab immigration the facts are that the Arab population in Israel is breeding itself to a majority as Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly said in the Knesset.

    You see as part of its apartheid Israel had a "Pro-Natalist" policy in place which rewarded Jewish only births with enhanced child allowances. This ensured a steady climb in Jewish birth-rates coupled by the recruiting of Khazars, Russians, Slavs and anyone else who had even the slightest claim to Jewishness. This law was found to be unconstitutional in 1997 and the past ten years has seen a steady acceleration of the moslem birth-rate and the Zionists are now in real danger of eventually becoming a minority as the recruiting of "Jews" from other countries dries up. The Law of Unintended Consequences is a wonderful thing.

    It may be tedious but the following time-line gives a dispassionate sequence of how Palestine was stolen from it's inhabitants. The British handed it over on May 15th 1948 in the face of terrorism from Irgun, The Stern Gang et al.

    1878
    First Zionist settlement (Petach Tiqva) established under the guise of agricultural community.

    1882-1903
    First wave of Zionists (25000 strong) enters Palestine as illegal immigrants from Eastern Europe.

    1882
    French Baron E. de Rothschild starts backing Zionists activities in Palestine financially.

    1896
    Theodor Hertzl, a journalist from an Austro-Hungarian origin published Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State) advocating the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine or elsewhere.

    1896
    JCA (Jewish Colonization Association) starts aiding Zionist settlements in Palestine.

    1897
    First Zionist congress in Switzerland issues the Basle Program "calling for a home for the Jewish people in Palestine" and establishes the WZO (World Zionist Organization) to that end.

    1901
    JNF (Jewish National Fund) set up by the 5th Zionist congress to acquire land (in Palestine) and 'make it Jewish'.

    1904-1914
    Second wave (around 40000 strong) of Zionist illegal immigrants arrive in Palestine and increase the Jewish percentage to 6% of the total population.

    1909
    First Zionist Kibbutz (collective farm), establishment of Tel Aviv north of Yaafa.

    1916
    - January: Hussein-McMahon talks regarding steps leading to Arab countries/provinces' independence from the Ottoman empire.
    - May: The signing of the Sykes-Picot agreement dividing Arab countries/provinces between Britain and France!
    - June: Sharif Hussein declares independence from Ottoman Empire and the start of Arab revolt against Istanbul.

    1917
    - November: The Balfour declaration - UK foreign minister declares support towards establishing a Jewish state in Palestine.
    1918
    - September: British forces, led by Gen. Allenby, occupy Palestine
    - October: World War I ends.

    1919
    - Jan-Feb: first Palestinian National Conference in Jerusalem rejects Balfour declaration and calls (with letters to the Paris peace conference) for independence.
    - August: Paris peace conference sends investigation committee to the Near East. UK and France did not participate. Committee recommends modification of Balfour ideas.

    1919- 1923
    - Third wave of Zionist-Jewish immigrants (around 35000) raising their percentage in Palestine to 12%, with land ownership at 3%.

    1920
    - April: disturbances start in Palestine. Five Jewish people killed and 200 injured. UK investigates and attributes causes to broken promises and fears of new waves of immigrants.
    - April: Peace conference higher council in San Rimo places Palestine under British mandate
    - May: British occupation prevents the second Palestinian National Council (PNC) from convening
    - July: Sir H. Samuel (British Jew) opens British civil administration in Palestine.
    - December: third PNC convenes in Haifa, elects executive committee that steers Palestinian political movement till 1935

    1921
    - March: formation of the Haganah, Jewish underground terror organization
    - May: Disturbances in Haifa protesting Zionist waves of immigration leading, among casualties, to 46 Jewish immigrants. The British investigate, found as before.
    - May: Haj Amin al-Husseini appointed a mufti for Jerusalem
    - May-June: fourth PNC convenes in Jerusalem, sends a mission to London to explain position

    1922
    - June: British minister for colonies (W. Churchill) publishes the white paper excluding East of Jordan river from the Balfour declaration and calls for organizing Zionist immigration according to economic capacity of Palestine.
    - July: League of Nations approves British mandate over Palestine
    - August: 5th PNC approves economic boycott of the Zionists.
    - October: 1st British census in Palestine found total population to be 757182 , 78% of whom were Muslim Arabs, 9.6 Christian Arabs and 11 % Jewish (mainly new immigrants)

    1923
    - September: British mandate officially begins
    1924-1928
    4th wave of Zionist immigrants (67000) arrives (50% of whom were from Polonia). This increases Jewish percentage to 16%, with land ownership up to 4.2 % in 1928).

    1925
    - Vladimir Jabutinsky's Zionist party calls for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine and east of the River Jordan. Stresses the military aspects of Zionism.
    - October: 6th PNC convenes in Haifa

    1928
    - June: 7th PNC convenes in Jerusalem

    1929
    - August: clashes over the Western (Alburaq) Wall i Jerusalem. Clashes led to 116 killed and 232 wounded among Palestinians (mainly by British fire) and 133 dead and 339 wounded among the Jewish side.
    - October: General Palestinian Conference convenes in Jerusalem to discuss the situation around the Western (Alburaq) Wall

    1929-1939
    5th Zionist immigration wave brings 250000 immigrants raising their percentage to 30% and their land ownership to 5.7 %.

    1930
    - January: League of Nations forms an international committee to investigate the legal situation over the Jerusalem Wall.
    - March: the British Shaw committee releases findings in the 1929 clashes.
    - October: The Hope-Simpson report on immigration finds no enough resources for Zionist waves of immigration. UK colonies' minister issues a white paper incorporating findings of Shaw and H-S.

    1931
    - Irgon, another Jewish terrorist organization, formed by Zionist extremists and those who split from Haganah. Led by Vladimir Jabutinsky.
    - February: British PM, R MacDonald, retracts from the white paper of October 1930, in a letter to H. Weissman, the Zionist leader.
    - November: 2nd British census in Palestine finds 1,035,154 people. 73% Muslim Arabs, 8.6% Christian Arabs and 16.9% Jewish (mainly immigrants).
    - December: L French, UK development director, publishes a report about Palestinian Arabs who lost their land thanks to Zionist settlements.

    1933
    -UK foreign minister issues a report concerning the need to re-settle Palestinian farmers who were expelled from their lands in favor of Zionist immigrants


    1935
    - October: Zionist revisionists leave the World Zionist Organization and establish a new one aiming at "liberating" Palestine and East Jordan.
    - November: Sh. Izz Eddin al-Qassam leads the first Palestinian unit resisting British policies and dies in a battle with British forces near Jenin.

    1936
    - April: Palestinian parties for the Arab Higher Committee headed by Haj. Amin Husseini.
    - May: Palestinian National Committees conference calls for a stop of tax payment (no taxation without representation). Revolt begins.
    August: Fawzi Qawikji, along with 150 volunteers enter Palestine from Lebanon to help fight against the British occupation.
    November: British Royal Committee, headed by Lord Peel, arrives in Palestine

    1937
    - January: Royal committee leaves Palestine
    - April: The Irgon, headed by Jabutinsky, re-organizes and calls for start of raids against Palestinians
    - July: Peel committee report recommends partitioning Palestine into Jewish state (33%) on best areas and one for Palestinian Arabs in addition to British protectorates including Jerusalem. Reports refers to forced transfer, if needed, of Palestinians from the 'Jewish' part.
    - July: Arab Higher Committee rejects the Peel recommendations, calls for Independence of whole Palestine with protection for the rights of all and the British interests. Revolution continues.
    - September: Arab National Conference convenes in Bludan Syria). Rejects partition plans, calls for an end to British mandate, Zionist immigration and transfer of land ownership.
    - October: British occupation dissolves Arab Higher Committee and the rest of Palestinian political organizations. Five leaders expelled and Haj A. Husseini escapes to Lebanon.
    - November: Britain forms court martials to face the Palestinian revolution.

    1938
    - April - August: Irgon (Jewish underground terror organization) starts offensive against the Palestinians killing 119. Palestinians resist killing 8.
    - June: British officer Orde Wingate forms Special Night Units from British soldiers and Irgon terrorists to attack Palestinian villages.
    - October: Britain calls reinforcements. Governors replaced by army general to face the revolution.
    - October: British forces re-occupy Jerusalem from the Palestinian rebels.
    - November: Woodhead technical fact finding committee declares partition plan inappropriate, calls for general conference to be attended by Palestinians, Arabs and Zionists.
    1939
    - February: London conference convenes
    - March: London conference ends. No agreement.
    - May: British House of Commons votes in favor of a white paper by minister of colonies M. MacDonald. The paper calls for: conditional independence of a Palestinian state after ten years, acceptance of 15000 Zionist immigrants a year for 5 years, then by Arab agreement. British official sources put the number of Palestinians killed in the revolt at 3500-4000 in addition to 500 Jews/Zionists.
    - September 1: World War II begins.
    - October: Separatists from the Zionist Irgon organization form the Stern gang headed by Abraham Stern.

    1940
    - February: Land ownership rules according to British 1939 white paper enforced.

    1940 - 1945
    - Over 60,000 Zionist/Jewish immigrants enter Palestine (over 20,000 'illegally' as determined by Britain who controlled borders). Jewish/Zionist percentage rises to 31% and land they control to 6%.

    1942
    - February: Abraham Stern killed by British police
    - May: Baltimore conference for Zionist leaders convenes in NY, calls for "making Palestine a Jewish homeland"

    1943
    - November: Britain extends the five year Zionist influx to exhaust the 75,000 permits according to its 1939 white paper.

    1944
    - January: Zionist organizations Irgon and Stern unite against the British.
    - November: Stern group assassinates Lord Moyne (British minister)


    1945
    May 8: World War II ends.
    - September: Zionist influx resumes, protected by the Haganah (Zionist terror organization).
    - November: British foreign minister, E. Bevin, releases a white paper declaring the resumption of Jewish immigration.

    1946
    - March: Anglo-American committee arrives in Palestine to investigate British white paper of 1945.
    - May: Anglo-America committee report indicates 61, 000 - 69,000 armed members in Zionist organizations Stern, Haganah and Irgon; declares special armies illegal, recommends 100,000 more immigrants and the cancellation of land ownership regulations. Palestinians strike in protest.
    - June: Arab League convenes in Bludan (Syria), approves 'secret' decisions and warns UK and US that ignoring Palestinian rights will affect their interests in the Arab world.
    - July: British white paper on terrorism in Palestine accuses Haganah, Stern and Irgon of 'violence and destruction'.
    - July 22: Irgon blows up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem killing 91 people (among them British, Palestinian and Jewish employees of the mandate)

    - July: Anglo-American conference convenes in London, suggests a federal plan (M-G) to solve the Palestinian problem. Suggestions rejected by both Zionist and Palestinian leaders.

    1947
    - January: round table conference re-convenes in London.
    - February: British foreign minister, E. Bevin, suggests an amendment to the M-G plan and presents it to London conference. Plan rejected by Arab representatives and Jewish Agency.
    - February 18: Bevin announces he'll take the problem of Palestine to the United Nations
    - April 28 - May 15: UN General Assembly convenes the Palestine session, forms the 11-member UNSCOP committee
    - September 8: UNSCOP report published. Majority of its members suggest partition, minority suggest federal solution.
    - September 16-19: Arab League denounces partition, forms a committee to help in Palestinian defense needs
    - September 26: Arthur Jones, British minister for colonies, announces Britain's decision to end its mandate over Palestine
    - September 29: Arab Higher Committee rejects the partition plan.
    - October 2: the Jewish Agency accepts the partition plan.
    - October 7 - 15: Arab League convenes in Lebanon, warns of Zionist danger after Mandate and allocates a million Sterling Pounds for Palestine
    - October 29: Britain announces departure in 6 months if no solution achieved
    - November 27: Arab League Committee head report warns of inability of Palestinians to face the Zionist armies without help and organization.
    - November 29: UN general Assembly votes on an amended partition plan calling for a 56.5 % of Palestine for a Jewish state, 43 % for a Palestinian one and internationalization of Jerusalem. Votes were 33 for, 13 against, 10 abstinations. Arab representatives left the meeting.
    - November 30: The Haganah calls for Jews aged 17 to 25 to enlist for military service
    - December: Arab League establishes the "Arab Salvation Army" from Arab non-regular volunteers, headed by Fawzi Qawikji.
    - December 2: Palestinians declare a 3-day strike protesting partition. Disturbances result in killing of 6 Palestinians and 8 Zionists/Jews.
    - December 8: Britain presents a recommendation to the UN calling for an end of its mandate on Palestine, immediate formation of a Jewish state and a Palestinian state two weeks after.
    - December 8 - 17: Arab League political committee declares partition illegal and decides to supply the League Palestine Committee with rifles and volunteers
    - December 15: Britain announces it will hand the admin of Tel Aviv/Petah Tikva to the Jews and Yafa to the Palestinians
    - December 17: Jewish Agency executive body announces that American Jews should pay 250 million US$ to help the Zionists in Palestine
    - December 21 - March 1948: Zionist organizations Irgon and Haganah start coastal ethnic cleansing of Palestinian villages

    - December - January 1948: Arab Higher Committee forms local committees to defend Palestinian villages, towns and localities against Zionist cleansing.

    1948
    - January: AbdulQadir al-Husseini returns to Palestine from exile and becomes active in resisting the partition
    - January 8 - 10: Arab Salvation Army's first unit of 330 fighters arrives in Palestine, meets resistance from both Britain and Zionist organizations
    - January 14: The Haganah stockpiles on arms, mainly imported from Czechoslovakia, including artillery, machine guns, ammunition and 25 planes.
    - January 16: British report to the UN estimates 1974 killed during the period November 30, 1947 and January 10, 1948
    - January 20: Britain says it'll hand over administration according to local majority in each area
    - January 21 - 28: an extra 760 volunteers arrive to join Arab Salvation Army (ASA)
    - January - March: Jewish National Fund encourages the expulsion of Arabs from Haifa. The Haganah attacks Palestinians near al-Hula lake (north of Tabariyya) and the Palmach (another Zionist armed group) attacks Bedouins in An-Naqab.
    - February 16: ASA loses near Bisan.
    - February 18: The Haganah calls men and women aged 25 - 35 to enlist in 'military service'.
    - February 24: UN discusses the situation
    - March: East Jordan government head meets UK's Bevin and both agree that East Jordan government forces enter areas allocated to Palestinians (according to partition plan) after the end of Mandate
    - March 5 - 7: Qawikji assumes leadership of ASA units in the Jenin-Nablus-Tulkarm triangle 9areas assigned to an Arab state according to partition plan)
    - March 6: the Haganah announces general mobilization
    - March 10: British House of Commons votes on ending the mandate on May 15. The Haganah drafts "Plan Dalet" (Dalet is Hebrew for D) for military operations in Palestine.
    - March 18: American president, Truman, receives Chaim Weizman and promises to support the declaration of the Jewish State on May 15.
    - March 19 - 20: USA representative in the Security Council asks it to suspend the partition plan and calls for a General Assembly session to discuss a trusteeship on Palestine. Arabs accepted a limited one with a truce conditioned by Jewish acceptance. The Jewish Agency rejected.
    - March 25: Truman calls for an immediate truce, announces willingness to participate in temporary trusteeship
    - March 30 - May 15: 2nd coastal cleansing operation by the Haganah against Palestinians between Haifa and Yafa.
    - April 1: First arms shipment to Jewish organizations lands in Haifa, more in air cargo. Security Council calls for a General Assembly session according to US suggestion.
    - April 4: The Haganah starts executing "Plan Dalet (D)".
    - April 4 - 15: Battle of Mishmar Ha 'Emeq. Haganah wins and Palmach occupies villages in the plains of marj bin Aamer
    - April 6 - 15: Operation Nachshon (first part of Dalet Plan). Villages and towns on the Jerusalem - Tel Aviv road fell to Haganah.
    - April 8: Abdur Qadir Husseini dies in counter offensive to restore al-Qastal (near Jerusalem)
    - April 9: Deir Yassin massacre. Irgon and Stern terrorists kill 250 civilians in this village in Jerusalem district
    - April 12: General Zionist Council decides to establish an independent state in Palestine on May 16.
    - April 20: Operation Hariel of Plan Dalet. Palestinian villages on Jerusalem road targeted and destroyed. Continues till May 15.
    - April 15 - May 25: Operation Yiftah captures Safad and uses psychological war to expel Palestinians. Operation Sweeper drives bedouins to Jordan River.
    - April 16 - 17: Golani and Palmach units occupy Tabariyya (Tiberias) after British forces leave. Palestinian residents leave.
    - April 17: Security Council calls for a military and political truce
    - April 20: USA brings its trusteeship proposal to the UN
    - April 21: Operation Misparim. British forces leave Haifa, Haganah launches offensive.
    - April 22: Local defenders in Haifa lose. Residents leave due to heavy shelling and round offensive.
    - April 25: Irgon attacks yafa.
    - April 26 - 30: Haganah launches Operation Yabusi on and around Jerusalem and occupies areas there.
    - April 27 - May 5: Irgon and Haganah intensifies shelling and ground offensive on Yafa (Operation Hamets) leading to expulsion of 50000
    - April 30: Haganah captures all areas of West Jerusalem and expels Palestinians
    - May 3: Reports say Zionist attacks left about 175,000 - 200,000 Palestinian refugees
    - May 8 - 16: Haganah launches Operation Maccabi capturing villages on the Ramle-LaTrun road
    - May 9 - June 1: Operation Barak. Haganah attacks around Ramle
    - May 10 - 15: Golani brigade captures Bisan and launches attacks in area
    - May 12 - 14: Zionist forces receive more arms shipments arrive from Czechoslovakia
    - May 13: ASA and local fighters attack Gush Etsion and captures it in return of Zionists attack on the Hebron road. Yafa surrenders to the Haganah.
    - May 13 - 21: Operation Ben Ami. Carmeli brigade captures Akka 9Acre) and coastal areas north of the city
    - May 14: Haganah launches offensive on Jerusalem after British forces leave. Some residential areas captured in old city. An Israeli state was declared in Tel Aviv at 4 pm. USA president Truman recognizes the state
    - May 15: British mandate ends. Israeli state declaration takes effect.
    - May 15 - 17: Lebanese soldiers enter north border, restore 2 villages.
    - May 15 - 28: Arab Army (East Jordan) crosses the river and takes positions in Jerusalem, captures areas from the Haganah
    - May 15 - June 4: Iraqi units enter Palestine and take position in Jenin-Nablus-Tulkarm triangle. Haganah launches offensive, expel residents of villages on the Jenin road and even occupying Jenin but kicked out on June 3 -4 .
    - May 15 - June 7: Egyptian units cross the border and reach Isdod (coastal town). Some volunteers connect with Jordanian units near Bethlehem.
    - May 16 - 30: Operation Ben Nun. Zionists fail to capture Latrun to open Jerusalem - Yafa road, but capture neighboring villages
    - May 16 - June 10: Syrian units enter from north. Restores a few villages together with Lebanese soldiers
    - May 20: Security Council appoints Bernadotte its intermediary in Palestine
    - May 22: Security Council issues a resolution calling for a ceasefire
    - June 9 - 10: Operation Yuram fails to capture Latrun
    - June 11 - July 8: First truce.
    - June 28 - 29: Bernadotte suggests a solution between East Jordan and Palestine leading to Arab and Jewish states and allocates each party's share. Both parties rejected it.
    - July 7: Security Council calls for an extension of the truce
    - July 7 - 18: Operation Dani. Lod and Ramle fall, residents leave. Villages on the Yafa-Jerusalem road fall and a major offensive on Latrun ends with second truce taking effect.
    - July 8 - 14: Operations An-Far and Dekel end in capture of areas near Ramle as well as Naasira and al-Jalil al-Asfal (Lower Galilee)
    - July 9 - 18: Israeli army fails to restore a settlement from the Syrians
    - July 15: Security Council calls concerned governments and authorities to issue a ceasefire and implement it in 3 weeks.
    - July 17: Israeli Operation Kedem fails to capture old Jerusalem.
    - July 18 - October 15: second truce
    - July 24 - 26: Operation Shuteir. Israeli forces attack and capture 3 villages south of Haifa.
    - August 16 - early October: expulsion of bedouins from an-Naqab by Negev and Yiftah brigades
    - July 24 - 28: Operation Nikayon (cleansing): occupation of areas north of Isdod
    - September 16: Bernadotte suggests a new partition of Palestine. An Arab state to join east Jordan (contains An-Naqab, Lod, Ramle), Jewish state in Galilee (al-Jalil), internationalization of Jerusalem, return of refugees or compensation. Arab league and 'Israel' reject.
    - September 17: Zionist group, Stern, assassinates Bernadotte.
    - October 15 - November 9: Operations Yuav and Hahar. Occupation of Bi'r as-Sabi', Majdal, Isdod, coastal areas and villages near Hebron.
    - October 29 - 31: Operation Hiram. Capture of Jalil al-A'ala (Upper Galilee) and advance toward Litani river in Lebanon
    - November 4: security Council resolution calls for withdrawal to the prior October 14 positions and establishment of permanent truce lines
    - November - Mid 1949: Israeli forces expel villagers from a stretch 5 - 15 Km deep in Lebanon as well as residents of al-Jalil.
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    1949
    - February 24: Israeli-Egyptian truce. Egyptian forces leave Faluje and keeps gaza-Rafah strip.
    - February (end): Israeli army expels Faluje residents in violation of truce.
    - March: Israeli forces complete occupation of An-Naqab and reach Aqaba.

    1949
    UN Conciliation Commission for Palestine established; UNRWA founded; UN General Assembly resolution 303; 4th Geneva Convention.

    1950
    Israeli law of return and absentee property law;
    Jordan unified East Bank and what remains of West Bank (or the River Jordan)

    1951
    King Abdullah I assassinated in Jerusalem

    1955
    Israeli army attack and massacre in Gaza

    1956
    Israeli massacres in Qalqilya, kafr Qaasim and Khan Yunis; tripartite invasion (British, French, Israeli) of Egypt and the Suez crisis

    1957
    Israeli withdrawal from Sinai (Egyptian) and Gaza

    1959
    Fateh founded

    1963
    PLO draft constitution issued at Arab summit in Cairo

    1964
    PLO founded

    1965
    Israelis divert the Jordan River; Fateh carries first military operation in Palestine

    1966
    Israeli massacre in As-Sammu' village

    1967
    The six-day (June) war; occupation of the rest of Palestine; UN resolution 242; Arab league summit in Khartoum (Sudan)

    1968
    PFLP (Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine) founded; the Karamah battle; PNC (Palestinian National Charter) amended

    1969
    DFLP (Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine) founded; Israeli arson attack on Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem; Arafat became PLO chairman

    1970
    Black September events in Jordan

    1972
    King Hussein's UAK (United Arab Kingdom) plan

    1973
    October War (Yom Kippur); UN resolution 338; Geneva conference; Palestinian National Salvation Front founded

    1975
    PLO granted access to the UNSC; UN General Assembly resolution 3379 (Zionism is a form of racism)

    1976
    Land Day; West Bank municipal elections (under Israeli occupation)

    1977
    Begin's (Israeli PM) autonomy plan

    1978
    National Guidance Committee formed, Israeli invasion of South Lebanon; Camp David Accords (Israeli-Egyptian)

    1979
    Israeli-Egyptian Peace Treaty; Int'l Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People declared; UN res. 446, 452 (againstIsraeli settlement policy)
    1980
    EC's Venice Declaration; Israeli Basic Law on Jerusalem (annexation)

    1981
    King Fahd plan

    1982
    Fez, Reagan and Brezhnev plans; Israeli invasion of Lebanon; Sabra and Shatila massacre (Sharon and co.); Palestinian Communist Party founded

    1983
    Geneva International Conference


    1986
    War of the camps in Lebanon

    1987
    The first Intifada

    1988
    Jordan's disengagement declaration; Hamas (Islamic Resistance Movement) founded; Shultz peace plan; Palestinian Declaration of Independence

    1990
    Massacres at Iyun Qarah (Rishon LeZion) and Al-Aqsa Mosque

    1991
    Gulf War; Madrid Conference

    1992
    Multilateral talks; Israeli Labor Party wins elections

    1993
    Closure policies begin; Declaration of Principles (Arafat-Rabin-Clinton)

    1994
    Hebron massacre; Oslo I agreement; PA established

    1995
    Oslo II agreement; Y. Rabin assassinated by an Israeli.

    1996
    Palestinian Elections; PLC (Palestinian Legislative Council) formed; Netanyahu (Israeli Likud) comes to power

    1997
    Hebron agreement; Sh. A Yassin released (in a deal over failed Israeli operation in Jordan)

    1998
    Wye River memorandum

    1999
    Sharm el-Sheikh agreement (Wye II or Wye+); end of interim phase (according to Oslo I)

    2000
    More failed talks over land, Jerusalem and refugees; Sharon's visit to Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem and second Intifada




    RM
     
  17. They both have as much right to that land as anyone else, you people seem to think this is a new story, and that most of it is from the 1930's to now.

    Get a grip and read up on some history folks...

    Pay attention to the bolded sentence...

    http://www.mideastweb.org/palmaps.htm

    http://www.mideastweb.org/palcaliph1.htm

    The fact is they will never agree on anything as long as the Hamas refuse to recognise Israel...

    And as for the timeline posted showing how insidious the Europeans and later North America's politician's were, you have to realise that the Arabs would change allegiances as fast as a prostitute changes her drawers, no different then the North American Indians during the war of 1812 and before, it was whatever was most convenient, they are after all "tribal"..
     
  18. You asked for examples of other countries with laws that discriminate on the basis of religion. I gave you a pointed one in this very country. As for the grasp of history, there was not much done when Germany effected its laws in the 1930s against the Jews.

    And one other thing - "Arab" and "Jew" are not races.

    If anyone has evidence of laws in Israel that discriminate against Palestinians (Arab or otherwise), please reference them, as I'm sick of the claptrap spouted by Hamas and PLO apologists, not just on RR. As far as recent events are concerned, all we've seen are moves towards peace from Israel, not much from the Palestinians. With Hamas caring so much about its electorate that it throws them off of buildings, with Islamic militants fighing Lebanese troops in Palestinian refugee camps and showing no mercy for either Palestinian nor Lebanese, it makes one wonder who's fault the enduring situation is.
     
  19. They are according to the Oxford English Dictionary.
     
  20. And by that definition, Christianity is a race.
     

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