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Is Israel preparing for another dust up in Lebanon

As far as Israel is concerned the next punch up is never far away, it's only a question of who is going to be on the receiving end and when. No doubt there will be plenty of Arab volunteers to go and meet Allah and the Israelis will obligingly assist. :)
 
Crabman said:
As far as Israel is concerned the next punch up is never far away, it's only a question of who is going to be on the receiving end and when. No doubt there will be plenty of Arab volunteers to go and meet Allah and the Israelis will obligingly assist. :)

Whilst that may well be true will that justify the loss of innocent life?
 

AfterSSE

War Hero
Benjamin Netanyahu said:
The truth is that if Israel were to put down its arms there would be no more Israel. If the Arabs were to put down their arms there would be no more war.


Golda Meir said:
Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.

Fairly simple quotes, but they do resonate...
 
AfterSSE said:
Benjamin Netanyahu said:
The truth is that if Israel were to put down its arms there would be no more Israel. If the Arabs were to put down their arms there would be no more war.


Golda Meir said:
Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.

Fairly simple quotes, but they do resonate...

On the other hand have the Israelis actually created a situation where the palestinians can put down their arms, Israel still steals their land and maintains them in a state where they have to depend almost completely on aid. And perhaps if the Israelis allow the Palestinian children the opportunity to live their parents will hate the Israelis less.

Neither side can wait for the other to be the first to lay down their arms, it will never happen, they both have to give up trying to achieve military solutions becaause there will never be a military solution.
 

w.anchor

War Hero
AfterSSE said:
Benjamin Netanyahu said:
The truth is that if Israel were to put down its arms there would be no more Israel. If the Arabs were to put down their arms there would be no more war.


Golda Meir said:
Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.

Fairly simple quotes, but they do resonate...
Of cheap propaganda
 

AfterSSE

War Hero
I think you missed the gist of the quotes, for one the Arabs to a large degree have stated unequivocally that Israel must be wiped off of the map, however Israel even though they are not blameless will seek a peaceful resolution faster then the Arabs, and lets face it, as for square acreage, the Arabs have a lot more land they can "donate" to the Palestinians if they so wished...but they don't wish....end-ex

The second one is also obvious, you do not see the Israeli's strapping C4 to their kids chests and telling them that they will be rewarded for murdering innocent children and women (instead of legitimate military targets)...the bottom line is, the Arabs will do anything they can to eliminate the Israeli problem.....we have gone over this over and over, it's like flogging a dead horse, the Israeli's if they truly believe they will be hit, will strike first, too me that's only natural, or do you think they should wait and allow the next wave of rockets to land before they take action?
 

w.anchor

War Hero
AfterSSE said:
I think you missed the gist of the quotes, for one the Arabs to a large degree have stated unequivocally that Israel must be wiped off of the map, however Israel even though they are not blameless will seek a peaceful resolution faster then the Arabs, and lets face it, as for square acreage, the Arabs have a lot more land they can "donate" to the Palestinians if they so wished...but they don't wish....end-ex

The second one is also obvious, you do not see the Israeli's strapping C4 to their kids chests and telling them that they will be rewarded for murdering innocent children and women (instead of legitimate military targets)...the bottom line is, the Arabs will do anything they can to eliminate the Israeli problem.....we have gone over this over and over, it's like flogging a dead horse, the Israeli's if they truly believe they will be hit, will strike first, too me that's only natural, or do you think they should wait and allow the next wave of rockets to land before they take action?
No I missed no points cheap Propaganda end of story.
 

AfterSSE

War Hero
Was responding to maxi's post, not yours as yours isn't really a post is it?

Or am I missing something?, You believe these quotes to be propaganda and so don't see any truth in them?
 

4to8

MIA
w.anchor said:
No I missed no points cheap Propaganda end of story.

End of story my ar*e. when these lovely islamists blow up a London bus they are terrorists,ditto when they target the boys and girls in Afwanistan,ditto anywhere else but can you explain why they are suddenly saints when they attack Israel? Same mob,different branches,there is no place in their vision of the world for anyone else.Sufi wants Islamic rule worldwide.
And
Following are excerpts from a speech by Kuwaiti Professor Abdallah Al-Nafisi, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 2, 2009.

Abdallah Al-Nafisi: "Four pounds of anthrax - in a suitcase this big - carried by a fighter through tunnels from Mexico into the U.S., are guaranteed to kill 330,000 Americans within a single hour, if it is properly spread in population centers there.

"What a horrifying idea. 9/11 will be small change in comparison. Am I right? There is no need for airplanes, conspiracies, timings, and so on.

"One person, with the courage to carry four pounds of anthrax, will go to the White House lawn, and will spread this 'confetti' all over them, and then will do these cries of joy. It will turn into a real 'celebration.'
This from a Professor,not a pretty thing at all.
 

AfterSSE

War Hero
And people wonder why Israel gets antsy....


Clerics urge new jihad over Gaza

At a weekend meeting in Istanbul, 200 religious scholars and clerics met senior Hamas officials to plot a new jihad centred on Gaza.

The BBC's Bill Law was the only Western journalist at the meeting.

In a hall crowded with conservative Sunni Muslim sheikhs and scholars, in a hotel close to Istanbul's Ataturk Airport speaker after speaker called for jihad against Israel in support of Hamas.

The choice of Turkey was significant. Arab hardliners were keen to put aside historic differences with the Turks.

As one organiser put it: "During the past 100 years relations have been strained but Palestine has brought us together."

Many delegates spoke appreciatively of the protest by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who stormed out of a Davos debate on Gaza two weeks ago.

Delegates from all over the Middle East, and from Somalia, Sudan, Pakistan and Indonesia applauded as he stabbed the air with a raised finger and declared: "There will be no agreement with Israel... only weapons will bring respect."



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7895485.stm
 

broadside

War Hero
Send Tony in - man of steal (sic) - if he is so f***ing brilliant at getting stuff done - go and get it done then!
 
AfterSSE said:
I think you missed the gist of the quotes, for one the Arabs to a large degree have stated unequivocally that Israel must be wiped off of the map, however Israel even though they are not blameless will seek a peaceful resolution faster then the Arabs, and lets face it, as for square acreage, the Arabs have a lot more land they can "donate" to the Palestinians if they so wished...but they don't wish....end-ex

The second one is also obvious, you do not see the Israeli's strapping C4 to their kids chests and telling them that they will be rewarded for murdering innocent children and women (instead of legitimate military targets)...the bottom line is, the Arabs will do anything they can to eliminate the Israeli problem.....we have gone over this over and over, it's like flogging a dead horse, the Israeli's if they truly believe they will be hit, will strike first, too me that's only natural, or do you think they should wait and allow the next wave of rockets to land before they take action?

Whilst I do not support the concept of wiping Israel of the face of the earth, and most arabs do not support the cocept either, it is perhaps understandable that some do support this concept as the Isaelis have cxonsistantly tried to do this to the Palestinian Arab since the 1940s. Israel is not the bringer of peace rather they bring death and destruction to all who oppose the establishment of a state of greater Israel. No the Israelis do not use suicide bombers, why should they when they have 2000lb bombs and 155mm shells, cluster bombs etc etc.

Israel was form out of Iraeli terrorist action and has been maintained ever since by terroising the Palestinians and it's other neigbhors.

I see no reason to support the Israelis over the Palestinians, They are both as bad as each other though perhaps the Palestinians have not made themselves as efficient at killing the inocent yet. A pox on both their houses. Until they both realise that killing will not bring peace we are al condemmed to suffer.
 

Topstop

War Hero
Maxi_77 said:
AfterSSE said:
I think you missed the gist of the quotes, for one the Arabs to a large degree have stated unequivocally that Israel must be wiped off of the map, however Israel even though they are not blameless will seek a peaceful resolution faster then the Arabs, and lets face it, as for square acreage, the Arabs have a lot more land they can "donate" to the Palestinians if they so wished...but they don't wish....end-ex

The second one is also obvious, you do not see the Israeli's strapping C4 to their kids chests and telling them that they will be rewarded for murdering innocent children and women (instead of legitimate military targets)...the bottom line is, the Arabs will do anything they can to eliminate the Israeli problem.....we have gone over this over and over, it's like flogging a dead horse, the Israeli's if they truly believe they will be hit, will strike first, too me that's only natural, or do you think they should wait and allow the next wave of rockets to land before they take action?

Whilst I do not support the concept of wiping Israel of the face of the earth, and most arabs do not support the cocept either, it is perhaps understandable that some do support this concept as the Isaelis have cxonsistantly tried to do this to the Palestinian Arab since the 1940s. Israel is not the bringer of peace rather they bring death and destruction to all who oppose the establishment of a state of greater Israel. No the Israelis do not use suicide bombers, why should they when they have 2000lb bombs and 155mm shells, cluster bombs etc etc.

Israel was form out of Iraeli terrorist action and has been maintained ever since by terroising the Palestinians and it's other neigbhors.

I see no reason to support the Israelis over the Palestinians, They are both as bad as each other though perhaps the Palestinians have not made themselves as efficient at killing the inocent yet. A pox on both their houses. Until they both realise that killing will not bring peace we are al condemmed to suffer.


MAXI FOR WORLD PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Maxi_77 said:
Crabman said:
As far as Israel is concerned the next punch up is never far away, it's only a question of who is going to be on the receiving end and when. No doubt there will be plenty of Arab volunteers to go and meet Allah and the Israelis will obligingly assist. :)

Whilst that may well be true will that justify the loss of innocent life?

No.
 

Oil_Slick

War Hero
The Red Sea Pedestrians NEVER learn!

They got run out of Lebanon by Hizbullah in the 80's and very soundly beaten by them again in 2006.


Can't wait to seem the hugely overrated IDF get their arse handed to them on a plate again. :p
 

Oil_Slick

War Hero
AfterSSE said:
I think you missed the gist of the quotes, for one the Arabs to a large degree have stated unequivocally that Israel must be wiped off of the map, however Israel even though they are not blameless will seek a peaceful resolution faster then the Arabs, and lets face it, as for square acreage, the Arabs have a lot more land they can "donate" to the Palestinians if they so wished...but they don't wish....end-ex

The second one is also obvious, you do not see the Israeli's strapping C4 to their kids chests and telling them that they will be rewarded for murdering innocent children and women (instead of legitimate military targets)...the bottom line is, the Arabs will do anything they can to eliminate the Israeli problem.....we have gone over this over and over, it's like flogging a dead horse, the Israeli's if they truly believe they will be hit, will strike first, too me that's only natural, or do you think they should wait and allow the next wave of rockets to land before they take action?


And what about the 850 British civilians, Police and Servicemen murdered by Jewish terrorists between 1945 and 1947?
 
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