Is Illustrious an aircraft carrier or not?

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  1. I know Illustrious used to have fixed wing but there seems to be a lot of confusion as to whether it is an aircraft carrier or not, is it a case that it is no longer suitable to modern fixed wings so we don't consider it an aircraft carrier anymore?
     
  2. Illustrius was a "Through Deck Cruiser" not an aicraft carrier.
    The last aircraft carrier worthy of the name was "Ark Royal" of "Sailor" fame
     
  3. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Technically I'd suggest it's now a helicopter (or Commando) carrier, same as Ocean always was, same as Hermes was when there were no fixed-wing aircraft in service that could be launched from it.
     
  4. Now an LPH although they retained the R on the pennant number
     
  5. Can't be an LPH without landing craft. A white elephant, that's what she is.


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  6. She carries aircraft right?
     
  7. wet_blobby

    wet_blobby War Hero Moderator

    So did some submarines.......... ;)
     
  8. She has landing craft, 4 of them, just done many amphibious work with them including 2 deployments in the same TG

    Again she is an LPH no longer a CVS
     
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  9. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    I thought Illustrious was a rather fetching grey, rather than white.


    LPH = Landing Pad Helicopter, no mention of landing craft floaty things.
     
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  10. If required they could still operate Harriers/AV8's from countries who value naval air power so therefore it is an aircraft carrier "when they want it to be". :(


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  11. Lusty has no landing craft I can assure you and LPH stands for Landing Platform Helicopter, and by Landing it means landing troops ashore not landing aircraft.


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  12. Landing Platform Helicopter isn't it?
     
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  13. She fulfils the LPH role whilst Ocean is in refit as she is the closest thing we have but she is not a true LPH. Ocean is the RNs only Purpose built LPH capable of landing troops ashore by air and sea. It also has a vehicle deck and ramps in addition to the largest hangar in the Navy. Until QEC is commissioned Ocean is the largest ship in the Navy.


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  14. image.jpg
    you would be correct in your assumption, but alas the FAA has no fixed wing aircraft!!! Ps toy ones don't count!!!!!!!
     
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  15. Scouces photo also shows the lack of landing craft. Ocean has 4.


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  16. Edited for mongness
     
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  17. Edited not what I was trying to do. Tapatalk won't give me delete
     
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  18. Hmm, I'd be interested to see a picture of that..... Can you provide?
     
  19. Here is a picture of the Stbd side of lusty taken this year. Where would you put an LCVP? ocean carries 4 on Davits, 2 port and 2 stbd, are you confusing illustrious with ocean thommo? ImageUploadedByNavy Net - Rum Ration1388157361.568645.jpg


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  20. I can't provide a pic so I am more than likely mistaken therefore my apologises.
     

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