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iPods on Silent Patrol

Evening shipmates,

I'm a SLt in the RNR currently but hope to transfer full-time and become a sun-dodger post-university. Was wondering if non-SIM devices such as iPods and MP3 players are allowed for music on 'off' time while on silent patrol? Also, do some young officers have their racks on top of machinery for their first deployment until they earn their dolphins (my Warrant is an ex-sun-dodger and he's spread a few tales like that)?

Best wishes
 

Alfacharlie

War Hero
Evening shipmates,

I'm a SLt in the RNR currently but hope to transfer full-time and become a sun-dodger post-university. Was wondering if non-SIM devices such as iPods and MP3 players are allowed for music on 'off' time while on silent patrol? Also, do some young officers have their racks on top of machinery for their first deployment until they earn their dolphins (my Warrant is an ex-sun-dodger and he's spread a few tales like that)?

Best wishes
Hi shipmate! (Love that).

I thought you all got your dolphins before you went to sea??
 

SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
I thought you all got your dolphins before you went to sea??

Only if they or you are blick - I can't remember - it's all SO confusing.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
To answer the OP, on an SSN you'll sleep down the bomb shop on the weapons racks, special bunk trays are fitted but you will be on top off, or next to, live weapons.
There's no restriction on iPods, MP3 players etc.
 

Taztiff

War Hero
There's no restriction on iPods, MP3 players etc.
Different life.
Remember having to ask FOST staff to take off battery powered watches before allowing them in to the Seacat mag.
Now they were dangerous weapons!
(To the firing ship mostly)
 

guns1969

War Hero
Different life.
Remember having to ask FOST staff to take off battery powered watches before allowing them in to the Seacat mag.
Now they were dangerous weapons!
(To the firing ship mostly)
I was drafted to a Tribal Class and instead of a GI running the Routine Office it was a CPRI (Chief RP to you sprogs), He calmly informed me that my Action Station was as Seacat Aimer, he wasn't very happy when I showed him my right arm and pointed out that I was a "Gunbuster" and had never even seen the inside of a Director. (The ship in question was also about 40 bod's down on a full Ships Coy).
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Different life.
Remember having to ask FOST staff to take off battery powered watches before allowing them in to the Seacat mag.
Now they were dangerous weapons!
(To the firing ship mostly)
The old style watches with luminous hands were banned on boats as they increased the background radiation. I remember one stoker who had an old watch his Grandad passed down to him. The MA's put it in the Alpha castle and it went off the scale, it was radioactive to the nth degree :)

The watch hands "back in the day" were painted with radium :oops: hence so many deaths amongst the people who used to paint it on!
 

Union Jack

Lantern Swinger
The old style watches with luminous hands were banned on boats as they increased the background radiation. I remember one stoker who had an old watch his Grandad passed down to him. The MA's put it in the Alpha castle and it went off the scale, it was radioactive to the nth degree :)

The watch hands "back in the day" were painted with radium :oops: hence so many deaths amongst the people who used to paint it on!

Conversely, and slightly to my surprise, the POMA put my rather special luminous watch in the castle and pronounced it as fine - until I suggested that he turned up the gain, at which point it too went off the scale!

I had to leave it at home but, when I returned from the next trip, I was very chuffed to find that my dad had very generously had the makers replace the face with a pale champagne dial and gold hands and indices.:cool:

Jack
 
The old style watches with luminous hands were banned on boats as they increased the background radiation. I remember one stoker who had an old watch his Grandad passed down to him. The MA's put it in the Alpha castle and it went off the scale, it was radioactive to the nth degree :)

The watch hands "back in the day" were painted with radium :oops: hence so many deaths amongst the people who used to paint it on!
Yes, indeed I too had to arrange swapsies for father's non-luminous watch.

IIRC those employed in the specialist task of painting those luminous watchfaces & hands, with the precision needed to get it onto those tiny areas, picked up the habit of licking their delicate brushes to achieve best results. Poor sods weren't to know...
 

SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
I've told the dit about the watches being checked and it being met with disbelief!

I must admit when it happened to me (I was a SR joining my first boat) being old and salty told them to ram it, before having the reason explained!
 

Ballistic

War Hero
I might be misremembering this but wasn't there an issue with the foresight in the SA-80?

As far as can recall, the foresight had a Trilux dot for aiming in the dark which I think contained a small amount of tritium.
Individually this wasn't a problem but when the iron sights were removed, (including the foresight), to fit the SUSAT optical sight, the way they were stored together increased the overall radiation beyond safety margins.

Something along those lines anyway.

Maybe those more "radiation-savvy" can elaborate... or call bullshit...
 

Ballistic

War Hero
^Calling @ArcticFox and/or @arcticfox042 -

One of 'em should know, being former Royal/one-time armourer/dress regulator to the MET POL, etc. etc
Thanks @BreathingOutOnTheWayUp

I've actually remembered now, the perceived problem was with the SUSAT as the sight illumination lamp contains tritium gas.

I'm pretty sure there was also a radioactive source in the iron foresight though.

I found this online:

http://www.mkbartlett.co.uk/data/0304SAA14LC.pdf

"Safety: The Trilux Source
The TRILUX lamp used in the SUSAT contains Tritium gas. In the event of breakage the following precautions are to be taken:
1. The escaping gas is not to be inhaled.
2. Cigarettes are to be extinguished immediately.
3. Broken parts are not to be handled with bare hands.
4. If a breakage occurs indoors, doors and windows are to be opened to allow the gas to clear and any gas or flame heating system is to be turned off.
5. All breakages are to be reported to the Medical Officer and the unit armourer as soon as possible."
 

Waspie

War Hero
I was drafted to a Tribal Class and instead of a GI running the Routine Office it was a CPRI (Chief RP to you sprogs), He calmly informed me that my Action Station was as Seacat Aimer, he wasn't very happy when I showed him my right arm and pointed out that I was a "Gunbuster" and had never even seen the inside of a Director. (The ship in question was also about 40 bod's down on a full Ships Coy).
I hope you're not complaining!!! Plugged into that nice heated suit. Barstewards used to tease us Wafu's on the flight deck when up the ice!!!! Best we had was a cold weather Parka, you 'Seacat Aimers' were all dressed up in a nice heated onesie!!!!!!
 

guns1969

War Hero
I hope you're not complaining!!! Plugged into that nice heated suit. Barstewards used to tease us Wafu's on the flight deck when up the ice!!!! Best we had was a cold weather Parka, you 'Seacat Aimers' were all dressed up in a nice heated onesie!!!!!!
I never did get a go in a Director.
 

arcticfox042

Lantern Swinger
^Calling @ArcticFox and/or @arcticfox042 -

One of 'em should know, being former Royal/one-time armourer/dress regulator to the MET POL, etc. etc
Find attached the risk assessment re these foresights. Storing these together with the SUSAT sight would not be a problem unless they were broken. Both totally safe together as they are sealed units.
Now if you dont mind I will be going back to ironing my collection of Little Black Dresses to Globe & laurel
size ready for inspection...... Two-three move your feet............
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Merman

Midshipman
Anyway back to the op post. Most boats will let you take a phone away with you. You hand them in as you deploy and will get them back later. I'm not sure any electronics are allowed in the bombshop, especially anything Bluetooth or WiFi enabled.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Anyway back to the op post. Most boats will let you take a phone away with you. You hand them in as you deploy and will get them back later. I'm not sure any electronics are allowed in the bombshop, especially anything Bluetooth or WiFi enabled.
I always took my mobile with me, just switched it off and chucked it in my locker but back then they were purely phones. I can't think of any reason why you'd need wifi or Bluetooth on a boat. The worry with smartphones is their photo and video capabilities.
 

Waspie

War Hero
I always took my mobile with me, just switched it off and chucked it in my locker but back then they were purely phones. I can't think of any reason why you'd need wifi or Bluetooth on a boat. The worry with smartphones is their photo and video capabilities.
Quote from a nice man from Thames House regards the question of cameras on mobiles.

"Don't go there".

From an intelligence stance they are a nightmare!!!!
 
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