Re: Some of our own need help
Jack_McHammocklashing said:
It would be a good thing if the charity posted its registered charity number up rather than a bank account number to pay it into
As they originally expected it to be a small collection, with everything manned by people who have full time jobs, turning it into a charity and the ensuing bureaucracy was not a realistic option. The guy doing the collecting is a mod on ARRSE who is known by many and is being checked up on by other regular users of the site.
They state that the holiday is free supplied by Spanish Dave, so we just have the air fare to find
Now easy jet is £50 quid return (sometimes it is each way) they have raised £17k in three months yet have sent only twelve families
Yes. Twelve families, with parents and kids in each. Lets's say an average of 4 people per family, £200 per family. Add in car hire, say £50 per week; spending money of £150 per week: £400 per family, £4,800 total. Some will be more as they need a carer or have a larger family.
Leaves £12k to account for. Taking off £2,500 for Selly Oak, leaves £9.5k to account for.
As mentioned in the post, they've helped 9 individual cases as well since the collection started back in December. If you had been there since December you'd have seen 3 key threads running since then with requests for donations AND regular sitreps as to who was being helped:
Thread 1;
Thread 2; or
Thread 3
Sample updates, with as much info as could be given due to individual privacy being respected, such as
minister_doh_nut said:
Sitrep: To date:
Provided security for a potentially homeless and disabled ex seviceman, a Christmas for his Wife and Kids, a holiday to Spain flights provided. Possibly employment when the chap in Question returns.
Provided a Christmas for the family of an Ex Royal Anglian in the form of Toys r us vouchers and Tesco vouchers.
Took an ex Kings own Border from the streets of Carlisle, put him in a hotel for three nights, then provided a bond, references, rent up front, clothing, dhoby kit, phone etc and a job, and the real chance of him working things out with his family
Our Ex booty who was badly injured recieved enough cash to buy a custom telephone, and we managed to get him a specific alarm. Also a holiday and flights.
Ex 3 Para dude, we raised enough for him to enjoy a holiday with four or five of his family, flights and a few quids worth of beer money too.
We have enough to furnish a room for families of injured personel at Sellyoak, we are just waiting for details from them so we can start.
Currently collecting for a Royal Irish regiment soldier who took a gun shot to the head, once he leaves Headingly (teaching him to walk again) there will be a holiday waiting for him.... on us.
Not a bad effort, considering this was only started 34 days ago........
Keep pushing chaps, more cases in the pipeline, and this is an effect, rapid and instant way of making a difference to people who genuinley deserve it.
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this page
The above are some of the 9 cases - assistance ranged from a couple of hundred to well over a thousand quid per case. I'd say that pretty much covers everything, given that some holidays cost more than the average.
(Perhaps these grateful families only want a holiday in "high season")
Words fail me. I have tried, repeatedly, to explain this nicely to you, but it seems that people such as myself whose family member DARES to get injured are, by your repeated insinuations, greedy little scrotes out to get what they can from everyone. This is simply not true.
If it is Ssafa then why not state it openly with their charity number and registration
It's not SSAFA. But Oldbaldy is involved with SSAFA and is thus aware of occasional cases requiring emergency help that SSAFA cannot mobilise quickly enough for - and thus the ARRSE fund have been able to help on those urgent cases instead.
I am all for our people getting what they need (I do not post and brag what I do for them) but I do have serious doubts on the internet claiming things
So your way of helping "our people" is to donate quietly, but to then post repeated comments on here about people like me being greedy. That insults people who are, frankly, already tired enough of getting through daily life with an injured serviceman to look after.
See whilst we have tried going down official routes for help in various areas, bootie's complications mean that we've not been able to do simple things like confirm meeting times with official bodies, as he is constantly sick or in medical appointments. He's been royally screwed by the system and I am doing my damndest to ensure it doens't happen to anybody else EVER, but in the meantime bootie still has to get by without the help he should have been getting and hasn't. So ARRSE were fantastic for us, as they provided the funds for an essential piece of equipment - one that we still haven't even had an assessor visit to organise yet, several months later.
Nope when it comes to cash it goes in the tin of bona fide collectors or by cheque to head office for me Usually to RNBT but as not many RN'rs are suffering, my cheque goes to RBL
Good for you. RBL haven't been able to help us in the slightest as our circumstances are too complex for them to deal with. But they do wonderful work with those they can help, although as they said to us, they are now getting requests for help from so many injured serving servicemen that they are struggling to deal with this new bunch. And RNBT - well to apply for that we had to be visited by SSAFA; but the particular guy put onto our case started demanding extra hurdles that bootie wasn't in a position to meet (ever try getting paperwork off a computer system that your head injuries prevent you from remembering login details for and that nobody else is allowed to access for you?) so we still haven't gotten as far as the RNBT. Such is life when they have to deal with so many injured all of a sudden.
Perhaps my post apears rude and offensive, it is not meant to be, it's meant to make sure people send hard earned money to those most deserving and not be another story in THE SUN
This collection has not made it into the press once and isn't intended to, because not one person wanted this to be a pathetic flash-in-the-pan news story. It's about mates helping mates - but to do that they've started a shameless thread amongst themselves to remind each other to chip in. They thought they'd try it on RR as they'd been helping some of RR's own, but it seems that their approach isn't understood as well by some over here.
Oh and by the way, claiming you didn't mean to be rude and offensive doesn't prevent you from being so. Not once have you apologised for the way your comments have insinuated that people in my position are money grabbing, greedy little bastards who are not "the most deserving" and will not be satisfied with anything but the best. One year ago, bootie had the misfortune to drive over a bloody landmine on the last day of his tour. He then had the double misfortune of having his surgery screwed up and nobody figuring this out for many months. He's gone through hell and still is, and yes, if people offer him things to make what he's going through a little more bearable, he won't turn it down. But that does not make him a lesser human being and I will not have you making comments about people like him that are untrue and unpleasant, and then trying to excuse yourself by saying you don't intend it to be taken that way.
