HMS ALBION (Light Fleet Carrier redesignated as a Commando Carrier) was certainly in commission - as was HMS Bulwark) in 1962. I served in the former and relieved the latter on the Far East station.rickusn said:"Could this be the last day of their last commission"
Thats what Im looking for.
The only book at my disposal is Conways All The Worlds Fighting Ships 1947-82.
And it like most Internet sources only provides final fate dates.
Unfortunately I live in the boonies of northern Wisconsin and no Janes much less a complete set of Janes are available.
Im told two other books have some of this info:
Vanguard to Trident
The Decline of British Seapower
But alas I have no access to those either.
Probably should try and buy used copies.
Here is some of the stiuff Im interested in that I have been able to gather:
On July 1st, 1956, the strength of the Fleet was as follows:
A. Ships in commission or preparing for service with it.
2 FLEET CARRIERS Eagle, Ark Royal
6 LIGHT FLEET CARRIERS Centaur, Albion, Warrior; Bulwark flying training); Theseus and Ocean (non-flying training).
9 CRUISERS Ceylon, Jamaica, Glasgow, Superb, Newfound
land, Birmingham, Newcastle, Kenya and
1 GUIDED WEAPON TRIALS SHIP Girdle Ness.
4 DEPOT SHIPS Tyne, Maidstone, Adamant, Forth.
8 DARING CLASS SHIPS Daring, Delight, Defender, Diana, Duchess, Diamond, Decoy, Dainty.
24 DESTROYERS 2 Weapon Class; 7 Battle Class; 12 C Class;
Vigo, Savage and Obdurate.
53 FRIGATES 18 Destroyer Conversions; 7 Black Swan Class;
9 Bay Class; 7 Loch Class; 3 Castle Class;
1 Grimsby Class; 1 Hunt Class; 5 Blackwood
Class; 2 Whitby Class.
2 FAST MINELAYERS Apollo, Manxman.
1 NETLAYER Protector.
2 COASTAL MINESWEEPER
H.Q. SHIPS Mull of Galloway, Woodbridge Haven.
71 MINESWEEPERS 10 Ocean., 34 Coastal; 27 Inshore.
42 SUBMARINES (include 2 X-Craft).
1 REPAIR SHIP Ranpura.
1 DEEP DIVING VESSEL Reclaim.
1 RESCUE BELL SHIP Kingfisher.
7 SURVEY SHIPS Vidal, Cook, Dalrymple, Owen, Scott, Shackleton,
20 COASTAL CRAFT 17 Fast Patrol Boats; 3 Seaward Patrol Craft.
8 LANDING VESSELS 1 Landing Ship Headquarters; 4 Tank Landing
Ships; 3 Tank Landing Craft.
1 MINELAYER Plover.
5 CONTROLLED MINELAYERS; 22 BOOM DEFENCE VESSELS (6 Civilian manned);
4 DE-GAUSSING VESSELS (3 Civilian manned).
B. Ships undergoing extended refit or modernisation or in Reserve.
3 FLEET CARRIERS Victorious, Illustrious, Indefatigable.
3 LIGHT FLEET CARRIERS Triumph, Glory, Vengeance.
5 BATTLESHIPS Vanguard, Anson, Duke of York, Howe, Kin,,, George V.
12 CRUISERS . Sheffield, Bermuda, Cleopatra, Mauritius, Belfast, Bellona, Dido, Euryalus, Sirius, Swiftsure, Liverpool, Gambia.
1 AIRCRAFT REPAIR SHIP Perseus
1 AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE CARRIER Unicorn.
19 SUBMARINES (including 2 X-Craft)
47 TANK LANDING SHIPS AND CRAFT 8 MAINTENANCE SHIPS
52 BOOM DEFENCE VESSELS (51 Civilian manned'
C. Ships in course of construction.
1 LIGHT FLEET CARRIER Hermes.
3 CRUISERS Tiger, Blake, Defence (Defence became HMS LION)
19 FRIGATES 4 Anti-Aircraft; 4 Aircraft Direction,. (one of these was HMS Chichester) 11 AntiSubmarine.
3 SUBMARINES 'excludes those not yet launched).
69MINESWEEPERS 45 Coastal; 24 Inshore.
17COASTAL CRAFT 15 Fast Patrol Boats; 2 Seaward Patrol Craft.
1 REPAIR SHIP
1 SURVEY SHIP
1 DE-GAUSSING VESSEL
1 FAST MINELAYER
41 COASTAL CRAFT
1 DESTROYER DEPOT SHIP
6 CONTROLLED MINELAYERS
1 RADAR TRAINING SHIP
In 1961-62, the following ships were shown as Operational or Preparing for Service: Ark Royal, Hermes, Victorious, Centaur; Bulwark; Belfast, Bermuda, Lion, Tiger, Blake; 4 Darings, 7 Battles, 4 Weapons, 5C's; 4 Leopards, 1 Black Swan, 1 Bay class AA frigates; 3 Salisbury class AD frigates; 11 Whitby and Rothesay class, 4 Blackwood class, 3 Type 15 and 6 Loch class AS frigates; 2 Despatch Vessels; Ice Patrol Ship Protector; 30 Porpoise, Oberon, A, T and S class submarines; 26 Coastal, 12 Inshore minesweepers; 3 Seaward Patrol Craft; 1 Landing Ship HQ, 3 Tank Landing Ships, 3 Tank Landing Craft.
Ships shown as Engaged on Trials or Training include Girdle Ness, 2 C's; 6 Blackwood class, 10 Type 15 and 1 Hunt class frigates; 1 E and 1 S class submarines; 2 Ocean, 10 Coastal and 2 Inshore minesweepers; 2 Seaward Patrol Craft; 2 Fast Patrol Boats; 1 Tank Landing Craft.
The 80 Fleet was based upon the following premises:
Far East Station reduced to 2 frigates; Persian Gulf frigates reduced from 6 to 4, allowing 2 on station at all times; South Atlantic abandoned, but Protector retained (Protector later replaced by Endurance); America and West Indies Station abandoned; main body of fleet to consist of three carrier task groups, each with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers, 4 frigates rotating between Home, Mediterranean, Arabian Sea/Indian Ocean, with the CTG East of Suez augmented by a commando ship and an escort maintenance ship. Remainder of fleet divided between trials and training and a standing Home Fleet (3 destroyers, 3 frigates, 1 fast minelayer, 1 destroyer depot ship); five frigates for Fishery Protection; 20 submarines and 2 depot ships in Home waters; minesweeper support ship, 12 coastal minesweepers 5 submarines, a sub accommodation ship, a heavy repair ship and the amphibious warfare squadron in the Mediterranean with a RM Commando at Malta (2 of Med subs det to provide A/S training for Easter Carrier Task Group). Fleet disposition in 1961/62:
Fleet Carriers - 1 Med, 1 Home or refitting, both in Carrier task groups + 1 in Reserve
Light Fleet Carriers - 1 in East Indies Task Group + 2 in Reserve
Cruisers - 1 in ea carrier task group = 3 + 2 in Reserve
Destroyers - 4 in each carrier task group, 3 in Home Fleet, 1 in Training Squadron = 16 + 24 in Reserve
Frigates - 4 in each carrier task group, 3 in Home Fleet, 4 in Persian Gulf, 2 in Far East, 15 in Training Squadron = 36 + 26 in Reserve
Not much I know.
Tracking the changes of the RN and why fascinates me.
But again alas I dont have acess to nearly enough information.
Thanks for your help!!!!!!
Albion (RO7) was decommissioned in about 1973, having been bought to be converted for use in the North Sea Oilfields. Towed to Faslane to be broken up after the conversion was cancelled by the buyers.rickusn said:Bulwark is listed.
I said I only posted part of what I had.
........, But she certainly could have been recommissioned in 1962 also.
Hope that explains things.