IM GOING TO APPLY TO BE A NAVAL AIRCREW OFFICER

rumlessgut

Midshipman
Im really bored of the whole desk job thing and am applying to join the Navy as an officer. The thing that stands out the most for me is to join the fleet air arm - everything just seems so much more exciting. But surely this has to be VERY popular? I reckon the competition to become a pilot has to be hard, and therefore will it be a case of the Navy only taking on the best of the best??

I dont want to go all the way through it to be turned down because theres too many people applied for it and they are all better than me!
 

dunkers

War Hero
The navy are currently very short of helicopter pilots and observers believe it or not.
The aircrew selection weekend is where a lot of candidates fall as it tests things like spatial awareness and other skills required by aircrew, which some people don't have.
 

rumlessgut

Midshipman
dunkers said:
The navy are currently very short of helicopter pilots and observers believe it or not.
The aircrew selection weekend is where a lot of candidates fall as it tests things like spatial awareness and other skills required by aircrew, which some people don't have.

If i fail that can I go back and apply as a Warfare Officer, for example?
 

silverfox

War Hero
Moderator
Book Reviewer
Go for it. There is a shortage of pilots (having just seen a presentation by the officer Manpower manager..) and so if you pass AIB and the initial aptitude then you stand a very good chance of being a pilot ( and following the 'no stick, no vote' school of cockpit management - who wants to be an observer...)

It was only a few months ago that people wanting to be Warfare officers were told that they had not achieved a high enough pass and would they consider Aircrew instead....

And by the way - I'm not aircrew
 

dunkers

War Hero
rumlessgut said:
dunkers said:
The navy are currently very short of helicopter pilots and observers believe it or not.
The aircrew selection weekend is where a lot of candidates fall as it tests things like spatial awareness and other skills required by aircrew, which some people don't have.

If i fail that can I go back and apply as a Warfare Officer, for example?

You can indeed, a lot of people do this in fact.
 

silverfox

War Hero
Moderator
Book Reviewer
If you fail Grading - which is in the second 7 week phase at Dratmouth, you may, and I say may, get a chance to transfer - but my past experience (2 years on the staff at BRNC 03-05) would tell you that its an outside chance and not to bet a career on it.
 

rumlessgut

Midshipman
dunkers said:
rumlessgut said:
dunkers said:
The navy are currently very short of helicopter pilots and observers believe it or not.
The aircrew selection weekend is where a lot of candidates fall as it tests things like spatial awareness and other skills required by aircrew, which some people don't have.

If i fail that can I go back and apply as a Warfare Officer, for example?

You can indeed, a lot of people do this in fact.

What is the time difference between each AIB?? eg if i get rejected as Officer Pilot and want to re-apply, how long will I have to wait? (Im eager to get out of this desk job and do something with my life)
 

silverfox

War Hero
Moderator
Book Reviewer
It can be quite quick. We had one chap who failed grading and was turned down for a transfer. He was sent home to await the paperwork to discharge him... in the meantime he whipped round to an AFCO, re did his AIB and turned up on the entry list for the next intake.... we thought his name was familiar!! We thought that was brill cos it was so frustrating when we had failed aircrew who had been partially trained and wanted to transfer but were not allowed to by the HQ desk sucking blotter jotters..
 

rumlessgut

Midshipman
silverfox said:
It can be quite quick. We had one chap who failed grading and was turned down for a transfer. He was sent home to await the paperwork to discharge him... in the meantime he whipped round to an AFCO, re did his AIB and turned up on the entry list for the next intake.... we thought his name was familiar!! We thought that was brill cos it was so frustrating when we had failed aircrew who had been partially trained and wanted to transfer but were not allowed to by the HQ desk sucking blotter jotters..

Thats sounds good then. Another reason im in a hurry is because ive been thinking about a career in the navy for years now but only just grown the balls to get off my arse and do something about it. Dont want to lose them...
 

silverfox

War Hero
Moderator
Book Reviewer
indeedy. Just remember what they say about flying pay though.... you don't get paid more, just quicker.... :)
 

fido

MIA
rumlessgut said:
silverfox said:
It can be quite quick. We had one chap who failed grading and was turned down for a transfer. He was sent home to await the paperwork to discharge him... in the meantime he whipped round to an AFCO, re did his AIB and turned up on the entry list for the next intake.... we thought his name was familiar!! We thought that was brill cos it was so frustrating when we had failed aircrew who had been partially trained and wanted to transfer but were not allowed to by the HQ desk sucking blotter jotters..

Thats sounds good then. Another reason im in a hurry is because ive been thinking about a career in the navy for years now but only just grown the balls to get off my arse and do something about it. Dont want to lose them...

Do it - nothing ventured nothing gained and I can assure you that a career as an Officer in the Royal Navy (Aircrew or General Service) is the finest ever. I joined as a Boy Seaman in '57, transferred to the FAA in '58, was subsequently commissioned as an officer (FAA) and never looked back. It was brilliant!
 

Bagwafu

Midshipman
I dont want to go all the way through it to be turned down because theres too many people applied for it and they are all better than me!

Which shows a bit of a lack of committment. If you want to pass selection, grading and flying training you need a bit of committment.
And this bollocks about aircrew having less scores than Warfare Officers - aptitude is aptitude and you either have it as aircrew or you dont. The OASC tests will sort this out.
We may be paid quicker but it sure feels good.
Good Luck, oh and btw unlike silverfox I am aircrew.
 
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