I'm 17, 191cm tall (6ft3in), and want to become a Royal Navy pilot...

Discussion in 'The Fleet Air Arm' started by mac12t, Nov 25, 2012.

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  1. ...I heard somewhere that the F-35's cockpit was being expanded to allow room for the taller Dutch pilots (where the average height is 6.0ft). Here is a sample from the source: JSF cockpit too small for tall dutch pilots - Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums

    ''The Royal [Netherlands] Air Force has stipulated that the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) will get an extra large cockpit for tall Dutch pilots.

    During the development of the aircraft manufacturer Lockheed Martin considered cancelling the largest cockpit because of budgetary reasons, according to the RNlAF. After examination of TNO [Netherlands Organization for Applied Scientific Research], the Netherlands stopped this.

    Because Dutch men are among the tallest in the world, it is essential that the new jet has sufficient working space. The military is already struggling to find pilots. The Air Force can not afford to loose the category of tall men for recruitment. The design of the JSF will now take into account pilots up to 1.93 meters''.

    Does anyone know if this is true? If so then I have a lot to thank the Dutch! I know that I still might not be able to pass my medical, as the individual measurements are more important, but at least this gives me extra hope.
  2. :sign3: For goodnes sake
  3. I'm apologetic for the fact I'm a civvy and not that knowledgable on such subjects. After all, there's no harm in asking even if you do look stupid.
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  4. Nothing to do with looking stupid. More a case of why you thought we could possible answer such a complex query! The majority of us are old has beens!!!! Many more are like you, searching for answers to the modern RN. Only a select few are serving and in a position to answer your question.

    TBH, a letter to the aircraft manufactures would probably get you the answer you need.

    This is an after all an unofficial naval forum for us old farts to reminisce and take the mickey out of everything else!!!!:thumbright:
  5. Thanks for your answer and for being so understanding. Now someone's said that it does make sense, you're very right!
  6. We do have a couple of recruiters on here to help out but your question is quite specialised and I doubt the couple of fly boys we have may be able to answer it. Also may involve a bit of security too! Not just military but company. Would the manufacturers wish to see specs being openly discussed when it is still in R&D.
  7. True true :nod:
  8. I appreciate your enthusiasm and your thirst for knowledge but it really is a bit wasted on this topic, as you're not able to do anything about it.

    Equally, the whole point is moot if your anthropometric measurements are out of limits. For instance, it matters little if you'd be able to satisfy the requirements for helmet-canopy clearance if your buttock-knee length is too long for the ejection seat. At the end of the day the Dutch can do all they want but it's still going to come down to you passing the medical and fitting into the mould and there's no amount of research or worrying that's going to change that.

    When you join the RN as a pilot you basically join to fly helicopters. Sure, you can have your eye on fixed wing and strive to achieve that goal but do not delude yourself that you're joining to fly the F35 or else you may be disappointed. I only mention this because if you find you are outside the measurement limits then you've still got a fun-filled career ahead of you, even if your wings are whirling around your head.
  9. Thanks Pontius, I appreciate your comment. I do realise the pilots in the Royal Navy are mainly for rotary aircraft, nevertheless I would still love to fly the JSF. If it came down to it though and I were to fly helicopters I would still be extremely happy, helicopter pilots have just as much an exciting job as fixed wing pilots and the thought of flying them for the Royal Navy is equally a thrilling prospect.
  10. you cannot be serious!!!!
  11. Good for you mac12t, but bear in mind that when talking to a SeaKing pilot on Illustrious's embarked flight in 1985 he said that the highlight of his flying was when he turned the stick to turn around and fly back to the ship. It has good points and the not so good points.
  12. Rotary Wing pilot = high paid taxi driver.
  13. Not a bad analogy there Waspie! However I'm sure I'd still enjoy it.
  14. I think the OPs biggest problem is his age. If he`s 17 now, he`ll be well past flying fast-jet age by the time they come into service.

  15. Fixed that for you.
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  16. Hi Rocket_Ron, I've already spoken to my AFCO and they said they are recruiting fixed wing pilots starting December. The only fixed wings I can think of are F-35's, I know what you're saying though. I won't (even if I get that far) be able to use them on the frontline for a few years to come, especially since the QE carriers also need to be finished first.
  17. You may not be in too bad a position IF things go to plan and IF your AFCO is right about the date of recruiting. Assuming you joined BRNC in 2013, you'd pop out the end of the fast jet pipeline in 2016/2017. The current plan has the RN getting their grubby mitts on the F35, on a boat, in 2018, so a couple of years spent with the Yanks on the F18 or even their F35s and you'd be in the right place and time to embark after trials are completed.
  18. Note the *IF* :-| Yes, things are a little unpredictable right now and unfortunately those events are out of my hands. You're very right in what you're saying Pontius.

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