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  1. Does anyone know if the RN accepts IGCSEs as an equivalent to GCSEs?
  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Good question

    You would need to take the certificates to your AFCO for a check of validity, it's not one I've been asked about previously, so cannot advise either way unfortunately.
  3. Are you looking at applying as an Officer, by the way?

    RN or RNR?
  4. I know what GCSEs are, I know what GCEs are, and I even know what CSEs where.
    However please enlighten me as to what IGCSEs are. :thanks:

    OOPS sorry, just did a search and found the answer.
    The international schools when GCSEs were introduced remained committed to the old GCE system. it was their belief (and mine) that GCEs were superior to GCSEs. Coincidentally for some years after the introduction of GCSEs the armed forces were still offering GCE tuition and examinations.
    Seems that the international brigade has been forced to lower it's standards.
  5. The International General Certificate of Secondary Education (IGCSE) is the world's most popular international qualification for 14–16 year olds. It develops successful students, giving them excellent preparation for their next steps in education, including progression to A and AS Level study, and equips them with skills for immediate employment.

    Taken from the university of Cambride website.

    Hope that helps
  6. Thanks Waino, found it myself :w00t:
  7. chieftiff

    chieftiff War Hero Moderator

    It's an International GCSE Slim. I'm pretty sure UCAS recognise them as equivelant to a GCSE although wether they appear on the QCA structure I'm not sure, I vaguely remember some controversy about it.

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  9. I'm looking to join as a rating in the RNR, but am led to believe that I'll need the qualifications should I ever want to be an officer. Just keeping my options open really. My partner who's joining with me can currently (much to my envy) qualify as an officer, but is joining as a rating with me. If we both got to a point where we wanted to change direction it'd be great if we could both to it together.

    I've been looking to see how I could go about meeting the criteria. IGCSEs can be done from home and are a lot cheaper, but apparently harder than GCSEs. They're recognised by Edexcel and Cambridge, UCAS and Universities. But I know from experience the RN are quite 'rigid' with their qualification requirements.

    I have NVQs 2,3 and 4 and key skills which are, in most instances, equivalent to both the GCSE requirement and A level requirement, and a diploma. But unfortunately it's simply not recognised by the RN.

    I’m a capable and intelligent lad but unfortunately went through a lot as a youngster, that coupled with the fact I don’t really get on in an academic environment led me to come out of school with little to show. I’m just looking to remedy that now really, as cheaply and efficiently as possible!
  10. I would advise enrolling at your local college of knowledge. In the first instance take Math and English at GCSE O level. If you are up to speed you should be able to pass these within six months. Then select 3 other GCSEs whose syllabuses would be covered by your NVQs. Should be able to pass these OK.
    Have you thought of just taking the examinations and not the courses?
  11. I have been doing GCSE's in the mob recently. You get awarded an iGCSE from University of Cambridge so dont see any reason why they would not be accepted at an AFCO.
  12. I've done several GCSEs since I've been in the mob and when you register for the exam with the education office you sit......

    IGCSEs with Cambridge International Examinations.

    Would be a bit strange if the RN was putting their own people through IGCSEs but refused to accept them upon joining!
  13. I've recently sat IGCSEs and GCE O Level (yes they still exist) exams with Cambridge University and there is no difference in the standard between the two.

    As for the difference between IGCSE and GCSE that's a different matter and many independent schools are moving to the IGCSE because they believe it is more academically rigorous.
  14. You say that, yet the RN put their own people through NVQs (to my knowledge) but don't accept mine! :w00t:
  15. No problem if your NVQs are good ones, just sit the nearest equivalent GCSEs.
    A bit of study before each one then take the examination, I don't think GCSE examination fees are too expensive.
    In a year you could have the 5 GCSEs required for a commission and still have the NVQs. :thumright:
  16. Many years ago when the GCSE was introduced it replaced CSEs and GCEs. At that time a CSE at grade A was considered to be equivalent to a GCE at grade C.
    Now passes at GCSE grade A-C are accepted as equivalent to the old GCE A-C, this surely is wrong.
    The RN still offered GCE courses for many years after the introduction of GCSEs as did both Oxford and Cambridge for overseas students.

    I reckon that the IGCE is possibly the old GCE with a new title but same content.
    If this is the case surely it should be recognised as being superior to the dumbed down GCSE.
  17. Now I am confused, so basically the old GCE is still in place but is known as higher, while the CSE is known as the foundation.
    What was the point of combining them in the first place?
    The only possible reason is to fool employers into thinking that all who have passed the foundation at grade C have taken the same examination as those taking the advanced with passes at grades A-C.
  18. Saphire
    I beg to differ on a GCE being an A level qualification.
    The Examinations were always differentiated by either and (O) or (A) in brackets after the letters GCE, ie GCE(O) and GCE(A).
    So because some students did not have the educational acumen to take GCE(O) level the system has been tampered with to make it look as if these students are as educated as their cleverer peers.
    What next, oh yes, why not call NVQs degrees? That way little Fred who can barely read and write will not be discriminated against in the real world.
    As someone who took their first GCE(O) levels at age 33 (many years ago) I am really annoyed at the dumbing down of examinations.
    There is no way that I would have passed GCE(O) levels at age 16-18, like many others I developed my skills later in life.
    Kids have got to learn to stand on their own two feet, they should be encouraged to study subjects which they will be able to use to their advantage in later life. They certainly should not be pushed into university courses which are in all honesty a waste of time and money just so that they have a degree at the end of it.

    Rant Over :thumright:
  19. Hiya I might be going a little off the subject here but seems as we are talking about GCSE's I thought I would comment.

    Anyway I am applying as a warfare specialist, and I have been told I'll be looking for a March intake to Raleigh.

    But something keeps bugging me and it's I really want to go in as an Officer. But don't have the GCSE's to get in. I have been college and done an access course which was like doing 3 A levels in Biology, Sociology and Psychology so I have the ucas points that my university let me in with. But just don't have the GCSE's. Anyway I just got off the phone to ICS and they have 5 GCSE's that I would like to do, and they are priced at a discount. Do you think I should ring my AFCO on the 5th and explain my situation that I want to do GCSE's first, and then re-apply as a Warfare Officer, or shall I go in as a Rating, and then eventually do my GCSE's while in the Navy?
  20. Up to you really.

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