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Hypersonic attack(s) on ship building yards

blinghfly

Midshipman
The thinking goes that military bases are not the future, given their static nature as hypersonic missiles would be too difficult to defend against (at the very least the incoming shrapnel, at worst a continuous low cost barrage of them) which is where mobile "bases" like aircraft carriers have an advantage.

While the debate on the future of aircraft carriers will go on for the life of the QE and PoW, my thoughts turn to the shipyards that either build or maintain them (not so much decompile them) - you can see where I am going with this. How does the UK defend it's ship building yards from hypersonic attack?

My thoughts on the matter are to either build underground, but this would be no good for blue water fleet vessels, so why not into mountains that connect with water i.e. the The Guns of Navarone. Looking at the American's they have several ground bases in their mountains (NORAD), but do we have any Thunderbirds bases into ours?

Whether we do or not, I would like to know the merits on the idea of building shipyards into mountains, and how well they would fair against a direct attack?
 

Waspie

War Hero
My fingers are itching but I have managed to restrain myself from commenting other than to say Ballistic is spot on!!
 

blinghfly

Midshipman
I don't know what you are trying to say, I've posted in the wrong forum location or the idea is too risible to be debated?
 

Waspie

War Hero
If anybody has anything constructive to contribute towards my query on this forum then please do.
At 3 in the morning - good luck!! Only us night shift workers.
Maybe in the day the light may bring out some good orators!!! As for constructive! I'll 'wait out' on that one!
 

Waspie

War Hero
You obviously have a thing about 'hypersonic attacks' so why not just get it off your chest and blurt out what you really want to say or prove to us you have knowledge of.
 

blinghfly

Midshipman
Firing missiles into mountains doesn’t do much, so why not build ships on hollowed out caves?
 
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Waspie

War Hero
Read up on Barnes Wallace in WW2. He designed weapons then to trash German sea caves harbouring Subs and larger surface raiders!! So move on some 70 years and think about what countries may have now!!
You do the thinking and research and stop asking what is essentially a hypothetical situation.
Its nothing new. For every aggressive weapon there will be a defensive one to counter it. If not, then one would quickly be manufactured.
 
Mmmm "risible" (probably a first outing for that word at RR) "...describes something that is laughable or amusing, like seeing dozens of clowns emerge from a very tiny car..." for a more complete definition please add -

" ...falling over themselves like lame lemmings hastening to engage in erudite debate on today's burning issue -


Shipbuilding in caves, caverns & potholes - Profundity or Bollocks?



BOBSERVATION

Flash to bang reaction time at OP was only 6 Minutes for our distinguished correspondent at Orca. BZ Wits...

... you cunning old stirrer :WINK:
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
How do you get the ship from the mountain to the sea?

That would be on helluva launch and splash as a destroyer hurtles past you seaward.
 

BillyNoMates

War Hero
What mountains would you be thinking of?
We don't have many lumps in the UK that could be hollowed out sufficiently to make a protective base.
But wait! Hold on!
We could look to the regions where warships and submarines are constructed and build our very own mountains over them instead! Lord knows, this country could generate enough landfill and crap to put up an entire mountain range over Devonport in - say five years..... much the same can be said for Portsmouth and Faslane. As for Barrow in Furness, well it would only take about a month to shovel enough shite together to construct our very own version of the Andes and bury everything deep, deep underground.
I mean, in time once our own mountains get established, we could build ski resorts on top of them whilst Babcock and Co continued churning out grey things and black doom bringers right under their very ski tips!
Sometimes I impress myself.
 
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blinghfly

Midshipman
Why did America build their NORAD operations facility into a mountain, and still maintain it today?

Why do the Iranians build nuclear research facilities underground?

Why did the Taliban dig themselves into mountains?

Why has the Swiss government been burrowing into their mountains for so many years?

Mountains are a safe haven from nuclear attack, and I should imagine hypersonic attack. It’s quite simple, asking questions to get the ball rolling is known as research, and where a mountain meets water the vessels can come and go.
 
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