hypermobility syndrome

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  1. hi just need some advice. my son(15) had his heart set on joining the royal navy but has recently found out (a)he has hypermobility syndrome and (b) the navy generally doesn't take applicants with this. as you can imagine this has been soul destroying for him. does anybody know if there are any positions within the navy that he could be excepted for?
    many thanks

  2. Cannot comment for the Navy in general but served with a great lad with excellent potential who had "lax ligaments".
    Despite being 6`+ he turned round in a torpedo tube, the only person I have ever known to manage it. He was prone to injuries and was excused saluting, dislocation of the shoulder. He was discharged from the Andrew at about 3 year point. The Navy spent a lot of time and money training him hoping for many years of service, which he wanted. Sometimes things just don't work out
  3. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Sorry to hear of the medical outcome Jeff. The disappointment is entirely understandable.

    The RN uses the Beighton Test to grade the individual and the standard is the same for all branches. The only branch I've ever seen with broader acceptable medical standards is a particularly specialist job, with specific experience & qualifications required- the RNR Cyber Warfare branch, but only a service medical specialist can advise on suitability: https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/joint-forces-command/about/recruitment

    In a lot of cases the medical standards for entry are Tri Service but it maybe worth at least checking upfront with the Army and RAF.

    Best of luck to your son.
  4. thanks for the info ninja-stoker. much appreciated.
  5. cheers topshot. just a shame that it happens to these lads who have planned a whole future and career have it dashed.


  6. You've said before that a Beighton score of 4 or over may mean 'further tests'. How'd you mean - I interpreted it as a score of 4 or over wasn't necessarily a straight fail.
  7. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    To the best of my knowledge if you score over 4 they check the score achieved there & then to verify the figure achieved. Four is a fail so far as I know - but again, I'm not medically qualified to give definitive advice unfortunately.
  8. sorry to hear about your lad. My boy was born with what was then classified as hypermobility (1992) and he was a navy cadet from a young age until he left school. He planned to go on to Wellbeck and put everything into passing his exams (not something which came naturally to him.) He went for his last check up as a 'child' so he could be discharged and discovered that the specialist did testing for the Navy. She told him to rethink his career. He was devastated too.. just like your boy he had built his whole future in his head and planned it all. All his friends were in the cadets & his weekends were usually spent doing something cadet related. He was so upset he decided what was the point .. and blew his exams.

    He went to a college but just drifted, and I finally told him to just try to go through the medical exam and see what happens. He went travelling after college for a few months and then came back and applied.. he scored 4 out of 5 so it was instant.. go no further, no further tests etc etc. He had aced the RTA exams and wanted to be in the submariners. In his life he has still at 22 now never needed any treatment, any medication or painkillers for his hypermobility and in fact just after he was turned down by the navy we discovered with a gene test he has Ehlers Danlos syndrome.. not Hypermobility Syndrome. His joints do silicate however because he has ED he has no pain and they literally spring back. He skies, runs, does circuit training, rugby, tennis.. used to fence and do karate and judo... the only injuries he's ever had were on navy weekends when falling over on a quay and hitting his head!

    He got a full time job and just hates it.. he wants to be out of an office doing what he thinks he should be doing.. he even did his school 2 weeks of work experience at the shipyard where they were working on the trident he was that into the life. He left work last year as he'd saved enough to travel again and went to Israel, Thailand and Jordan. What he saw there renewed his dream for some reason and since he's returned he has checked the criteria for joining. His Ehlers Danlos wont preclude him and the Beighton Score can actually be different every time you have the test done.

    I would get your chap tested for which category he is in.. Ehlers Danlos does have 5 or 6 categories and my sons is the least troublesome category. From a medical point of view hypermobility is a symptom of another syndrome. ie like down syndrome sufferes can have hypermobile joints for instance. There are many many illnesses out there. From my sons point of view for instance, hypermobility is just one aspect of ehlers danlos .. for instance if he did take pain meds it could not be asprin or ibruprofen. You also cant split a break near a hypermobile joint. Lots of people with hypermobile joint have aching knees simply because the ligaments in the foot arch are too weak. So insteps create the false arch and the pain is gone.. no meds needed.
  9. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Just a quick -tip: Over the counter orthotic insoles are fine (sorbathane or similar) however prescribed insoles are in themselves also a bar to entry, so be wary of going to a GP if you can sort the problem yourself.

    Also - dietry restrictions can literally not be catered for so are a bar to entry.
  10. Rather odd. The doc doing my medical didn't even do the Beighton test.

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