I made no inference that the House of Lords played no part in "Law Making". However, no policies or manifesto's are made independently by the upper house, in fact they come from a manifesto set by the people we think of as the "Government" ie. the Lower House. In reality, the only time anybody is really bothered about the House of Lords is when the annual set of drips comes around as to who has been made a Life Peer, or when there is a contentious issue that has divided the Commons.
Again, the context is everything. The context of this is that you have abused your right to edit your own posts and have deleted completely, the one that started this little meander off-topic.
You inferred in your post, that the House of Lords has and uses, the right to create Bills and act upon them to create law, independently of the elected Lower House. Futhermore, in context of this thread, you inferred that there are a significant number of senior Clergy in the Upper House doing just this.
The reality of this little sideshow is this; You made a post a couple of days ago without any real knowledge of the subject matter you were getting into and belatedly realised you were wrong So you deleted your comments, hoping nobody would notice. Unfortunately for you, someone did notice and responded accordingly. Then, instead of admitting your mistake, you have twisted and bent the responses you have received in an attempt to cover you own rashness in typing without researching.
Again, if you wish to debate this topic further, then please re-instate your original, misguided and ignorant post which begain this little diversion. If not, please move on back to the point of this thread.
Well Grubber it looks as though we have both submitted posts that could be interpreted in different ways and I believe that when it comes to our political system I am not a complete dunderhead.
As for this missing post of mine that you keep banging on about, if one of the moderators can extract it from the recycling- bin I am more than happy for them to bang it back up?