How would you deal with immigrants who commit crimes

or are we one of the few that realise that as a nation we are producing less and less children ( well at least the right kind of parents aren't producing enough children)

So need these migrant workers to wipe are arses, be are doctors and do the shitty jobs that most youngsters now-a-days won't do, with out the influx of migrant workers ( that only just out strips ( OK officially) those people leaving the country) we would be brought to are knees very quickly.


We have a massive brain drain of our own going on, with doctors, nurses and other qualified people leaving this country due to low wages, yet we are more obsessed with thous coming in than out.
 
You must take note that these people are here because the majority of our own young people want office based jobs that pay well and are not prepared to take on manual work.

I was going to study carpentry when I was 16 but there was so little work out you had men with 20 years experience applying for entry level jobs just to have work.

Its the nature of things today. I worked security at my old college for a bit while I was between jobs. The majority of students were on media or IT courses. There were very few on trade courses, compared to when I was there when it was half and half.

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Dabs

Lantern Swinger
slim said:
A large number of crimes appear to carried out by immigrants .................
Hmmm, seems to me that a lot of crimes appear to be carried out by criminals these days, regardless of creed. Personally, I would say that crime flourishes in the UK simply because there is no effective deterent. Let's face it, since the human rights act came into being, the only people who seem to have gained from it are criminals. Then again, I might be wrong. :roll:

I wonder how many innocent victims would have something to say about the matter. :?
 

dondon

MIA
Dabs said:
slim said:
A large number of crimes appear to carried out by immigrants .................
Hmmm, seems to me that a lot of crimes appear to be carried out by criminals these days, regardless of creed. Personally, I would say that crime flourishes in the UK simply because there is no effective deterent. Let's face it, since the human rights act came into being, the only people who seem to have gained from it are criminals. Then again, I might be wrong. :roll:

I wonder how many innocent victims would have something to say about the matter. :?

Your totaly right mate , no deterent what so ever , winds me up no ends , country has gone to total ratshit , sinking rapidly ,
 

Dabs

Lantern Swinger
dondon said:
Dabs said:
slim said:
A large number of crimes appear to carried out by immigrants .................
Hmmm, seems to me that a lot of crimes appear to be carried out by criminals these days, regardless of creed. Personally, I would say that crime flourishes in the UK simply because there is no effective deterent. Let's face it, since the human rights act came into being, the only people who seem to have gained from it are criminals. Then again, I might be wrong. :roll:

I wonder how many innocent victims would have something to say about the matter. :?

Your totaly right mate , no deterent what so ever , winds me up no ends , country has gone to total ratshit , sinking rapidly ,
Roll on the revolution shippers, or should that be the tot? :lol:
 
If we stopped paying out benefits to lazy chav scum who won't work then they would have to do the lower paid jobs and we wouldn't need to have immigrants doing them. I live in a country where there is no benefit or medical care for free but there are no more beggars here than in London. You will never guess what the poorer people do??? They live cheaply, eat noodles and do any bit of work they can find, this is opposed to weraing all the shitty cheap gold you can buy from argos, dressing up in designer seconds from TK Max, having a cable tv and chav mobile.
Fcuk yeah our country has gone soft/stupid. Like most countries any crime should be rewarded with a taxi to the airport and a "you are not welcome again" stamp in your passport.
UK had better wake up before it is too late.... or is it already?
 

hobbit

War Hero
What I reckon may be the answer to this is don't let the fcukers in in the first place. When allowing people into your home you are not likely to invite anyone a bit sus are you so why not apply the same criteria to those wanting to enter you country. Problem is the checks seem to be made after arrival in the country whereas a strict suitability test should be applied at the point of departure.
Trouble there, sadly, is corrupt officials who grant visas for a price. To the point, it should be immediate expulsion and sacrifice all but the most basic possessions. Once this sort of treatment bites, the word would soon get around and you've gotta start somewhere instead of stuffing about. The good guys should not have to suffer these POS so get 'em out pronto,

:x
 
Exactly right.
In order to bring my missus to the UK to live (hmmm)... we have to satisfy a strict criteria, the main points of which are where will you live, how much do I earn to support her and to make sure we do NOT have to rely on any public funds.
Fair enough I think, so why are these half wit benefit gobblers even allowed through the gate at heathrow?Makes me puke. Yeah Ling, come on in, bring your missus, but make sure you show us all your pay slips and bank statements and your house deeds, oh yeah and can we have some references as well?? Ah, adhul, not got a pot to piss in and haven't had a bath in years? You'd like to come and preach hate against us outside your funny shaped church whilst the honest hard working people in the UK pay for your keep? Sure, why not indeed, here, have a new pair of flip flops as well.

Anyone else see what's wrong with this picture?
 
OK another one for you, what about the wife or husband of a serving personal or for that matter a wife or husband of any British citizen. should they and their family be sent to were said person ' came from'.


What if that person has been here for 20 years, kids ( for arguments sake 10 and 15) born in this country, should they be sent back with their parent so they don't become a burden on society by having to go into care?

How far back should we go should, if I was to commit a crime, should the fact my great great grandad came from India ( for example) mean I should be sent back there along with 3 older generations of my family and any children I have.
 

slim

War Hero
wompingwillow said:
OK another one for you, what about the wife or husband of a serving personal or for that matter a wife or husband of any British citizen. should they and their family be sent to were said person ' came from'.


What if that person has been here for 20 years, kids ( for arguments sake 10 and 15) born in this country, should they be sent back with their parent so they don't become a burden on society by having to go into care?

How far back should we go should, if I was to commit a crime, should the fact my great great grandad came from India ( for example) mean I should be sent back there along with 3 older generations of my family and any children I have.

Someone who has resided in the UK for 20 years would almost certainly have British citizenship and would be treated the same as if born here.
However what I am noticing is the number of newer immigrants who come here and start a life of crime immediately, be it benefit fraud, drug dealing or as in a recent news item an immigrant taking driving tests on behalf of others. I welcome any immigrant regardless of colour or religion who comes here legally to paid employment and obeys the law.
On the other hand I am unwilling to accept any immigrant who believes that this is the land of milk & honey where he/she can sit on their arses claiming benefits and choosing which if any law should apply to them
 

slim

War Hero
Lingyai said:
Exactly right.
In order to bring my missus to the UK to live (hmmm)... we have to satisfy a strict criteria, the main points of which are where will you live, how much do I earn to support her and to make sure we do NOT have to rely on any public funds.
Fair enough I think, so why are these half wit benefit gobblers even allowed through the gate at heathrow?Makes me puke. Yeah Ling, come on in, bring your missus, but make sure you show us all your pay slips and bank statements and your house deeds, oh yeah and can we have some references as well?? Ah, adhul, not got a pot to piss in and haven't had a bath in years? You'd like to come and preach hate against us outside your funny shaped church whilst the honest hard working people in the UK pay for your keep? Sure, why not indeed, here, have a new pair of flip flops as well.

Anyone else see what's wrong with this picture?

lingyai I have seen this system in action. Friends of mine who worked for many years and marry a Thai then have to go to the British embassy to try and get a visa for their spouse. Meanwhile back in the UK the Asian population seem to have no problem getting spouses from India & Pakistan into the UK following an arranged marriage. This seems to be followed by other family members from the marriage being allowed in.
Lets have a level playing field, scrap the race relations act so as to stop the race card being played
 
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