How often do you deploy or get mobilised in the RNR?

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  1. I've no military experience at all, so i dont know, so sorry if i sound a bit clueless.

    I've heard conflicting things.

    For example I heard the advert on talksport and it said something like 1 month a year.

    On the website it says you could be away for 9 mths at a time, how can you do a normal ob if you are away so long?

    And i've read posts on here with people saying they havent really done anything

    What would you say is most likely?

    What would an average 12 mths be for someone in the RNR?
     
  2. Liam
    the question is, which 12 months are you asking about?
    if it's your first year, you will be ASKED (not made to) conduct 2 weekends, several drill evenings, 1 week at RALEIGH and then another 2 full weeks at RALEIGH.
    The next 12 months, a number of weekends (anything from 4 to 24), and one 2 week course (more if you wish)
    the next 2 yrs will probably be the same, though it will depend on how many courses you can do, on average, after RALEIGH, it takes about 4-5 stes of two week courses to get qualified. Once qualified you may mobilise (be called to serve at the sharp or blunt end). The call up will likely be about 9 months, with 6 months actually overseas.
    Mobilisation tends to be "intelligent" where by you "bid" for the period that is best for you and your employer ie not when you are planning a takeover bid, or getting married etc.

    does that help?
     
  3. Yes. Thank you, it helped a lot, over a 5 year period how many times would you be away for the 6/9 month period?
     
  4. At best once, more if you so desire.
     
  5. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    It's quite difficult, as Alf alludes, to predict the future. Voluntary deployments/mobilisations are whenever you wish, if there are vacancies in your branch for people of your specialisation.

    Compulsory ones (the ones where the service can match your civilian wage or help compensate for reduced income) are relatively rare. I think - and no doubt others will will correct - the last time wholesale compulsory mobilisations took place was during the Iraq Wars - even then it wasn't everyone, just distinct specialisations (Medical & RMR mainly).

    Not sure if there have been any compulsory Herrick mobilisations, but if there have, besides Special Forces & Medical, I doubt there have been Ratings compulsorily mobilised in any great number over the last decade. Happy to be corrected if anyone knows different.

    Then again, things can change politically amd militarily quite rapidly - Falklands, Libya & Ukraine being a good example. Nowadays the government are trying to police the world on the cheap and think the Reserves are the solution, having made loads of squaddies redundant & then mistakenly thinking they would want to join the TA (yeah, right).

    My guess is the Reserves in the coming years will be under increasing pressure to voluntarily mobilise themselves and if there isn't enough volunteers, they will be compulsorily mobilised far more than they have in the past - simply because there ain't enough regulars to do the job.
     
  6. All mobilisations are compulsory.
    All mobilisations attract the "Reservist Award" whereby a reservist and employer can make a claim(s) for extra dosh to cover things like childcare, gardening etc, and for the employer, cost of recruiting a temp replacement etc.

    as for how often you will be mobilised, that is an open ended question. The law currently states that no more often than every 27 months (it's a bit more complicated than that). However the aspiration is that once every 5 years unless you and the branch you want (and your employer) are happy, than you can go almost every year! (If you want)

    good luck - but the main thing is that you are HIGHLY UNLIKELY, to be mobilised until you are on the Trained Strength, and based on 2 weeks per year, that takes most about 5 years (again, if you, branch, and employer happy - like the Olympics - this can happen sooner)

    cheers

    SR
     
  7. NJ
    every mobilisation has been compulsory. Over 1000 have been mobilised since the ground breaking days of Telic 1.
    Things have changed, and, I hope continue, to change with the times.

    SR
     
  8. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Ah cheers, I get it. Mobilisation is compulsory whereas individuals can volunteer to deploy over and above mobilisation if they wish.

    Given the number of Reservists serving since Op Telic started, putting it into perspective, 1000 reservists mobilised, equates to less than 100 a year.

    Does anyone know how that equates as a percentage of the current RNR trained strength over the last decade? My guess is that under FR 2020, the percentage of mobilisation will ramp-up significantly. Should be interesting to see how that fares with employers & the self-employed in the coming years.
     
  9. Purple_twiglet

    Purple_twiglet War Hero Moderator

    Current RNR strength is 1960 all in including UTS.
     
  10. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    So around 5% over the last decade have been mobilised, taking joiners & leavers out of the equation & not counting individuals mobilised more than once.

    Is it right to assume the percentage of mobilisations will increase significantly due to the loss of operational capability following the tri service SDSR redundancies, and if so, have those already serving in the RNR, and their employers been briefed?
     
  11. NS - I doubt it.

    More to the point, whilst mobilisations may be "compulsory", they are voluntarily "compulsory": my wife negotiated her mobilisation to suit us. A lot of Reservists have turned down mobilisation over the floods.....
     
  12. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Cheers Alf. That's precisely what I was suggesting with regard voluntary mobilisations - you can put yourself forward, whereas there are mobilisations that aren't met by volunteers.
     
  13. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    With regard the floods and a lack of volunteers to mobilise, I reckon in the coming years the government will see their arse. They've already taken regular service trainees out of training for contingency manning during the floods - watch this space with Reservist mobilisations, they will go through the roof sooner or later & I'd guarantee employers and those joining haven't been made aware of this.
     
  14. Guys
    at the risk of sounding a bit orrrf.
    The OP was asking genuine questions about mobilisations as he was thinking of joining up. Any chance we could move these comments to another thread?
    only a suggestion, and in no way an opinion on any of the posts!
    ta
    SR
     
  15. I'm not a MOD, so someone else will have to do it. But frankly, under FR2020, things like mobilising in support of things like the Floods will become common place. It is a realistic question to ask a potential joiner if they are able to leave work for an unknown length of time, at very short notice, to support a task that doesn't include the world ending. At the end of the day, this is the crux of the Reservist question: do you exist to support the Armed Forces, at the same NTM as the Forces, for less training, reduced pay and little job security "in the real world".

    Go to ARRSE for multiple threads on this.
     
  16. Purple_twiglet

    Purple_twiglet War Hero Moderator

    I'm the rarity - I was compulsorily mobilised. I was told that my name was in frame for a post, told that I was going and then found myself en route 10 weeks later.
     
  17. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    The OP wants to know about mobilisation, we are talking about mobilisation. Hardly thread drift.
     
  18. Perhaps the RNR would rather forget the fact they exist to mobilise, rather than self-lick their own lollipops?
     
  19. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    I've started a duplicate thread to ensure recruits don't get mixed messages about mobilisation, as requested.
     
  20. VMT NJ
    unfortunetly mixed messages are something we will always have on this site (and tbh, sometimes it's a good thing).
    the key message though, is all mobilisations are compulsory, though the RNR tries to practice "intelligent mobilisation" whereby we go when it is least-inconvenient to employer and family. not always, but they certainly try to.
    also, apart from unusual mobilisations, such as Olympics and Help To Local Authorities, it is highly unlikely that mobilisations will occur until on the Trained Strength, and that normally takes about 4-5 yrs
    cheers
    SR
     

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