How long do security clearences take?

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  1. When I applied for the navy I filled in my securtiy clearence forms out and handed them in straight away, will they have been submitted yet?

    I have heard that they require references? are the references from my current work? as they do not know I am applying and don't want them to know incaes anything goes tits up and then there is annymosity for wanting to leave.

    Also how stringent are the financial checks? I have a CCJ that is settled, and is actually fradulant which my solicitor is in the process of removing, will this cause a problem?
     
  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    A standard security Clearance takes at least 8 weeks and costs at least £2.5K. Most AFCOs will not submit your Security Questionnaire until they are fairly certain you will join. They cannot be submitted until two favourable written references have been received at the AFCO. (This doesn't have to be your employer if you would prefer not top let them know you're offski). Most don't submit them until you have passed the Recruiting Test, Selection Interview, Medical and PJFT.

    The Security Checks include a Police National Computer Check & a check with a credit reference agency (Experian). If you have in inaccurate entry on a credit check, you do not need to line a lawyer's pocket with lucre - just get in touch with the company yourself & get it updated.

    If you have an unresolved CCJ, you need to resolve it to gain security clearance & you are deemed ineligible until it is resolved.

    Good luck.
     
  3. like I say the ccj is settled, it was paid by an insurance company of a bus company for which one of their drivers used my name, ridiculous really.

    so i dont think that will be a problem, do the references come from those i wrote on my entry forms?

    if so i think they should have been received by now, and i have a good rappour with my recruit CPO and i think he is sure i will join, so im guessing they have been submitted alredy. just waiting for medical questionnaire to come back, should hear by week on monday.

    dont have any worries about PJFT, so im hoping to join asap as AET, any ideas on how long ninja?
     
  4. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    AET is currently between 3 to 4 months from passing the Recruiting Test to entry providing you pass all elements of selection when first taken.

    For AET you have to score around 66% in the maths section and statistically many don't score high enough- the moral being revise against the clock. The other tip for AET s that there's a lot of classroom work in the technical training- if you don't want to "go back to school" or aren't very good at maths, it's definitely not the job to go for. The fail rate is alarmingly high.

    That said, it's probably amongst the best of trades & amongst the most transferable when you leave- if I had my time again, that's what I'd do.

    The very best of luck.
     
  5. ive passed tests, had medical waiting for some forms back from doc, then got PJFT
     
  6. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Well done on passing the test for AET - most don't!

    Assuming you mean the Medical Officer is writing to your GP, the following may help speed things along:

    Medical Referrals

    In order to be passed fit on the day, you must have completed your eyetest also.

    If there is a medical condition requiring further investigation before you can be categorically classed unfit or passed fit, the Medical Officer (MO) will write, with your permission, to your GP requesting further detail. They typically take up to 4 weeks to respond.

    (With asthma they often send a questionnaire for you GP to complete & return).

    You can speed things along by ringing your GP's Practice Manager and asking them to look out for the letter & reply as soon as possible.

    If the MO can make a definitive decision from the information provided by your GP, then you will be passed fit/or otherwise.

    If further detail is required & is available locally, the MO will again request it from a hospital or wherever the information is held (up to another 4 weeks).

    Alternatively if the information is such that the outcome is inconclusive, then the information is forwarded to the Senior Medical Officer (Service Entry), soon to be relocated at the Institute of Naval Medicine (INM) in Alverstoke, near Portsmouth in the newly named Aviation Medical Division. If the SMO can may a definitive decision, referring to the respective specialists in the relevant medical area, then that is passed back to the MO. Typically the turn-around time is within 4 weeks.

    If the SMO cannot make a definitive decision, then an appointment is made with a specialist in the relevant medical area of expertise. This can be at the INM Alverstoke, Guys London or Birmingham. The RN/RM pays for your rail ticket (and accommodation, if necessary) for you to attend this appointment. Specialist medical appointments usually take over 4 weeks to arrange.
     
  7. i have been on the case very day, the medical centre admin staff have been really good, it was sent last wed, should get to MO soon and back to AFCO with decision by week on monday, passed eye sight, just medical questionnaire about asthma, im confident though, just a bit worried bout security checks because of the ccj, but its settled, so might not be too much fuss. when i told the AFCO about my outgoings i didnt include rent as this would not apply as an extra if i was in the navy, only included a loan repayment of £160 a month. should be ok
     
  8. my SC only took 2 weeks, CPO said it was the quickest she'd ever experienced!! everything is done now just waiting for my date
     
  9. How long's a piece of string? Etc. :thumright:
     
  10. Mine took 4 months because I'd been out of the country traveling. I was starting to think they'd found something they didn't like.
     
  11. Depends on many things, I've seen that happen once before, for the spouse of someone with very high clearances...

    Make of that what you will.
     
  12. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Nothing dangling in the dust then?
     
  13. IF YOU ARE JUST BEING SC IT WILL NOT TAKE THAT LONG HOWEVER IF YOU ARE HAVING A DV, WHICH AS A WAFU I DOUBT V MUCH THAT WILL BE THE CASE IT TAKES LONGER. REF YOUR CCJ OR FINANCE CHECKS DONT PANIC. MOST PEOPLE HAVE A DEBT WHICH IS CALLED A MORTGAGE
     
  14. ....is your caps lock stuck mancitymick ??, or do you think we are all deaf ?
     
  15. The more i hear about AETs the more i feel i'm getting a raw deal by going in as ET(WE).
     
  16. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    How so?
     
  17. Well, at my pre-joining brief the three other guys that were there were all going in as AET. The CPO (who was also originally an AET) running the brief pointed out that AETs can have a far quicker promotion to AEO via 'Fast-tracking' if you have the necessary aptitude, and that such a thing isn't possible as an ET. Also that alot of their work would be unsupervised, whereas i would be under close supervision for a lot of the time.

    It also seemed that they get a much larger personal say in what they go on to do, i.e. they get an option what squadron they go to, and when i asked if i have a say in my placement he said that i would go 'Where the service needed me'.

    Obviously this is based on what he said, so if he was incorrect or i misinterpreted please correct me.
     
  18. Jamie
    Just remember that Wafus rule. The only reason for ships is to transport the FAA aircraft. ^_^; The most effective weapon on a type 42 is the helicopter. :w00t:
     
  19. Hello, i have my RT test for an AET, my gcse's are very bad, have i a chance of getting in? please reply thanks
     
  20. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    The service will try to draft you to your preferred ship or squadron, whether you are Fleet Air Arm or otherwise, however in ALL cases the requirements of the service come first. AETs don't always get what they ask for, however because there's a shortage of them across the board, there tends to be more billets available.

    Unless the person is fully acquainted with current ET(WE) promotional prospects & pipeline times, then they would tend to tell you what they do know rather than what they don't. ET(WE) promotion is on a par with the majority of RN branches- it's down to the individual how much they apply themselves & achieve their goal, the vast majority of AETs are promoted no faster than anyone else.

    AET "fast-tracking" is by no means assured as only the very top 5% of overall applicants may attain the fast-track scheme. AFCOs have been advised that whilst we should make AETs aware of the scheme, candidates should be aware there's a 95% chance they may not achieve it.

    Unlike their RAF counterparts, RN AETs do not need GCSE's however you must pass the RN Recruiting Test at a relatively high level.

    If you have poor GCSE results & didn't enjoy being in a classroom particularly, then you probably won't enjoy the early stages of AET training. Be aware there is a very high fail rate of AETs particularly at the start of Phase 2b training.
     

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