How best to recruit!

nutty_bag

War Hero
spenny said:
nutty_bag said:
spenny said:
nutty_bag said:
spenny said:
nutty_bag said:
Halford said:
At RMR Mersey there are great big signs advertising recruitment which a few of my troop said were responsible for their applying. also an advert in the Liverpool Echo. there is also a mobile recruiting stand in the car park which travels to different events, air shows etc.

although expensive i genuinely reckon TV advertising to be the best way.

i was out on a long road run and i got the idea for an advert:

the camera slowly pans sideways, left to right across an office showing a bloke at a desk, then across a lad in a uni lecture, then a fella on a building site, a fireman, a shop assistant and a doctor etc. next shot shows them all coming together at their unit and prepping for an exercise, then the next few shots pan across the same fellas doing a speed march, a patrol, an OP, a Troop attack, mortars etc.

just a thought!

anything would be better than that awful "cant get a job cos you havnt got any skills?" pongo one. it basically says "got **** all going for you? we'll av you." terrible.

we had 50 lads turn up to the selection weekend, and now on weekend four of phase two there are 9! so its not just getting people to turn up for selection, its getting them to stay the course!

Halford

I think alot of recruiting used to be done by word of mouth although i have to admit being one of a few lads that were on TVAM one morning with the aerobics woman with rubber dagger type T-shirts. I was the Royal behind directly looking at her arse. :lol:
Getting recruits through the door is one thing, but retention of those recruits is another ballgame altogether. At the start of my Phase 2 course there were about 8 or so blokes, with 2 of us going down to CTC on our course in may 1992. Of those 2, i passed and by best mate was back trooped and eventually passed his course 6 months later.

I have to say that a few years GD's after my course didnt really hold my attention due to a distinct lack of equipment and blokes in the Company who couldn't be arsed. Whats the point of doing an O.P when you have no night vision equipment to ensure the O.P log is adequately filled in!!! In the end i went and played elsewhere.........

My point is that the units have to keep the mens interests in order to retain them. Thats from the holding troop lads, right through to the lads in the Companies. I dont know the solution to this problem however.

NB

:lol: :lol: No surprise there mate!! Did you give her lycra clad arrse cheeks a wee squeeze? :wink:

Think she was old enough to be my mum at the time, but then again i've always liked the older woman :wink: :wink:

Please tell me it wasnt that crazy chick with the long curly hair, who bounced around like the energizer bunny on steroids?.....................MAD LIZZIE? 8O

You know what mate, i think it might well have been. Well she was nice from the rear anyway..........so to speak. :lol: :lol:

Hahah - Nutts you are a fckn legend mate.!!

Nah mate, my oppo "J.C" the thieving bastard was the legend mate, taught me all i know and corrupted me on many occasions. :lol: :lol:
 
Harry_Masker said:
Our unit is currently deploying 4 lads on Herrick, so that takes us down to about 5 lads on the ground for a Wed training night. Nods we have 3 phase 2's and about 6 new selection lads.

You have to laugh at the PSI's when they ask why no one turns up for their hoofing weekend - not! And when you tell them....

We have no new blood in the unit!
Lads have been in for over 6 years, and their priority list has placed the RMR to 3rd place i.e. It's more fun drinking on a weekend!
Poor Scran... menu = Pie, chips and beans OR Beans, chips and pie... enough said on that!

Now the RMR is great and very achievable, what we are bad at is selling the experience.

Drip, drip, drip!

HM

Does the unit have a decent local recruiting buget, or is it generally left up to the blokes to sort out?

I noticed 4 Para have a TV ad out just now and Perce is pushing for the whole One Army concept through massive TV, radio and poster advertising.
You tend to find most blokes who are really fit and want a challenge sway to either 4 Para or the RMR and with 4 Para having the upper hand in advertising at present, this will no doubt swing the recruiting in their favour too.

It must also be difficult with a limited number of trained ranks on the ground and with the Herrick deployment forthcoming, this will be even worse.

Perhaps involving the Recruits in recruiting is the way ahead?
 

Mitch

Badgeman
In regards to advertising a lot of my friends were impressed by the advert of the guy doing the endurance course, so a new one would be a good idea. But, then that advert just disappeared and the only place to find it is on youtube!
Halford's ad sounds good the only problem being that tv advertising might attract more of the wrong sort that will get weeded out at the PRMC stage as well as the right sort.
 

nutty_bag

War Hero
Mitch said:
In regards to advertising a lot of my friends were impressed by the advert of the guy doing the endurance course, so a new one would be a good idea. But, then that advert just disappeared and the only place to find it is on youtube!
Halford's ad sounds good the only problem being that tv advertising might attract more of the wrong sort that will get weeded out at the PRMC stage as well as the right sort.


Mitch

I think there has always been a problem of recruiting the wrong sort mate. I was involved in a holding troop recruiting weekend about 14 years ago and some of the lads that came on board were a picture. Nutty (young at the time) soon sorted out who wanted to be there and who didnt.

Dont think just because a person gets through and gets his green lid he is still the right person, i was far too young and immature at 19 to be wearing a green lid. I did however grow up very fast but a bit of age and life experience as in spenny's case will go a long way!!
 

Harry_Masker

Badgeman
We had one of the top brass up a month ago. He's said that the RMR will be tagged on to the new RM TV Ad, so fingers crossed that this helps.

The point about OP herrick and Iraq deployments, we were told that this is having a negative effect on recruiting also. Either the army are reeping the benefit of Royal doing the job out there or Wee Johnnies mum doesn't want him to go!!!


:twisted:
 

nutty_bag

War Hero
Harry_Masker said:
We had one of the top brass up a month ago. He's said that the RMR will be tagged on to the new RM TV Ad, so fingers crossed that this helps.

The point about OP herrick and Iraq deployments, we were told that this is having a negative effect on recruiting also. Either the army are reeping the benefit of Royal doing the job out there or Wee Johnnies mum doesn't want him to go!!!


:twisted:

Harry

Sorry to sound like an old sweat mate but i think this has always been an issue. Lads from my unit went on Op Haven in 1991 i think, prior to that there was the Falklands so there is always an element of retention when wars are being fought!!
 

Mitch

Badgeman
Fair point nutty.

Does anyone know when the next ad for RM comes out because I have seen plenty on the tv for the Navy but not specifically RM.
 
I think we had 35 lads start P1 originally; around 30 went on First Step and 16 on Twosome. The numbers will probably improve due to a few not being able to attend, because it was going to be a wet one, they were going out on the piss etc but it's fair to say that most people were shocked by how many people were missing!

It will be interesting to see how many turn up for the next weekend 8O

I have to agree the problem doesn't seem to be getting people in it's getting the right people and retaining them. Although from the weekend it was clearly noticeable how well the troop got on with this new group of people that are genuinely interested in getting into P2. It was an awesome wet weekend!

Wulf
 
nutty_bag said:
Mitch said:
In regards to advertising a lot of my friends were impressed by the advert of the guy doing the endurance course, so a new one would be a good idea. But, then that advert just disappeared and the only place to find it is on youtube!
Halford's ad sounds good the only problem being that tv advertising might attract more of the wrong sort that will get weeded out at the PRMC stage as well as the right sort.


Mitch

I think there has always been a problem of recruiting the wrong sort mate. I was involved in a holding troop recruiting weekend about 14 years ago and some of the lads that came on board were a picture. Nutty (young at the time) soon sorted out who wanted to be there and who didnt.

Dont think just because a person gets through and gets his green lid he is still the right person, i was far too young and immature at 19 to be wearing a green lid. I did however grow up very fast but a bit of age and life experience as in spenny's case will go a long way!!


Oi, you saying Im an old fart!!! :lol:
 

nutty_bag

War Hero
spenny said:
nutty_bag said:
Mitch said:
In regards to advertising a lot of my friends were impressed by the advert of the guy doing the endurance course, so a new one would be a good idea. But, then that advert just disappeared and the only place to find it is on youtube!
Halford's ad sounds good the only problem being that tv advertising might attract more of the wrong sort that will get weeded out at the PRMC stage as well as the right sort.


Mitch

I think there has always been a problem of recruiting the wrong sort mate. I was involved in a holding troop recruiting weekend about 14 years ago and some of the lads that came on board were a picture. Nutty (young at the time) soon sorted out who wanted to be there and who didnt.

Dont think just because a person gets through and gets his green lid he is still the right person, i was far too young and immature at 19 to be wearing a green lid. I did however grow up very fast but a bit of age and life experience as in spenny's case will go a long way!!


Oi, you saying Im an old fart!!! :lol:


Well if the cap fits mate!! or is it a green lid??

:lol: :roll: :lol:
 
Harry_Masker said:
We had one of the top brass up a month ago. He's said that the RMR will be tagged on to the new RM TV Ad, so fingers crossed that this helps.

The point about OP herrick and Iraq deployments, we were told that this is having a negative effect on recruiting also. Either the army are reeping the benefit of Royal doing the job out there or Wee Johnnies mum doesn't want him to go!!!


:twisted:

Good news on the TV ad mate - hopefully it will raise some awareness!!

Sadly Ive noticed the same, regarding new recruits being put off by Iraq/Ghanners. Several young lads that I have mentioned joining the RMR to, have came back with "fck that - Im not getting sent to Iraq or Afghanistan!!"

Something I cant understand really - being young and having no commitments (ie wife, kids career, motgage, debts etc) these young lads should be climbing the gates to get in, deploy and gain some Operational Experience.

Still, better to have 5 recruits that have the right qualities and pass the course, than 100 recruits who all jack it in!!
 
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