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HMS Sultan to be closed, HMNB Devonport to be Amphib super-centre

Bad CO

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The family jewels are certainly vanishing at a rate of knots. Having said that, centralisation has got to be the way forward in terms of efficiency.

As a guz resident I, for one, welcome our new Royal Marine overlords ....
 
@Tomahawk re: "HMS Sultan to be closed"

Errmm, not entirely true. So in the earthy vernacular of the lower deck, Missy: <<Borrocks!>>

Being a potential RN Officer I'd suggest that you try much harder, please - by reading and digesting the pdf which you so blithely quoted - before making such an announcement typical of an OD's messdeck buzz factory.

Going deep...

Bob L

PS BTW You are not alone, those scare-monglers over at ARRSE are posting similar Horlicks but I'd hoped for better here at RR.
 

Tomahawk

Lantern Swinger
According to the PDF - Submarine Engineering Training, Mechanical Engineering Training and AIB are all moving. Going off the RN website - only the RN Air Engineering and Survival School remains ... I can't see them keeping the base open solely for that. Especially when Network Rail and EDF Energy have stakes there.

Also scrap the potential :)
 
According to the PDF - Submarine Engineering Training, Mechanical Engineering Training and AIB are all moving. Going off the RN website - only the RN Air Engineering and Survival School remains ... I can't see them keeping the base open solely for that. Especially when Network Rail and EDF Energy have stakes there.

I can because, as announced, HMS SULTAN will have a much reduced training role thereby allowing the release of several acres for "other purposes" eg freeing land for those much-vaunted civilian housing needs.


Also scrap the potential. Accepted marm - But IMO that makes it even worse when a serving Officer is caught out headlining duff gen :roll:
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
I see Fort Blockhouse will go, that's a prime piece of real estate worth a few bob if sold correctly.

On another note, Nelson wardroom to go and move into HMNB. I wondered what they'd do with the Small Ships Canteen on North Corner, now I know ;)
 
The buzz from @Supermatelot of ARRSE is that

<<...HMS Temeraire , home of RN gym queens is also closing...>>

Not on the pdf but spread the good news anyway :Evil:




 
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According to the PDF - Submarine Engineering Training, Mechanical Engineering Training and AIB are all moving. Going off the RN website - only the RN Air Engineering and Survival School remains ... I can't see them keeping the base open solely for that. Especially when Network Rail and EDF Energy have stakes there.

Also scrap the potential :)

Network Rail and EDF will be gone soon anyway.

Making me wonder exactly where in HMS Collingwood there is sufficient room to fit all the heavy machinery in Watt Hangar, the two gash MT30s and the Spey, the contents of Faraday Block and Allied Trades and Ship Husbandry and the Simulators.

Oh, hang on. Buzzing Hub!

It's not been very well thought about has it? I mean, are they really going to level the site and build houses in and amongst two Palmerston Forts and level the listed Wardroom and build on the polo field? I expect Gosport is gonna love losing it's annual chavathon show every June.

levers

 

Purple_twiglet

War Hero
Moderator
The 'lets close SULTAN' routine has been going on now for about 15 years - every time it seems to get filed in the 'oh FFS this is really hard lets not bother' file.

I know there is some 'nothing going to be left' hyperbole, but its worth noting that over 90% of the existing estate is staying open - thats roughly 1000 sites in the UK...
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
On another note, Nelson wardroom to go and move into HMNB.

There seems to be a lot of money being spent on Nelson Wardroom for a place about to go. The last Pres did caution members to the effect; it ain't over until the fat lady sings.

The lady appears to have a lot of cake to get through before she even clears her throat.
 

slim

War Hero
There seems to be a lot of money being spent on Nelson Wardroom for a place about to go. The last Pres did caution members to the effect; it ain't over until the fat lady sings.

The lady appears to have a lot of cake to get through before she even clears her throat.

They spent an awful lot of money at Portland Seadog and then closed it shortly after.
Seems to be a new Navy Tradition
 

Sparkplug

Lantern Swinger
There seems to be a lot of money being spent on Nelson Wardroom for a place about to go. The last Pres did caution members to the effect; it ain't over until the fat lady sings.

The lady appears to have a lot of cake to get through before she even clears her throat.

Same with RMB Chivenor - serious investment there in the last few years.
 

Sparkplug

Lantern Swinger
Also - where will extra bootnecks go at Devonport, given that part of the base has been handed to the city, and RMB Stonehouse and the Royal Citadel are also closing....?
 

Trainer

War Hero
Book Reviewer
Gentlemen, chill your boots. The last time I was here at SULTAN when serving I was on the mess committee and we got as far as arranging the transfer of the Mess Silver to St Athan. Quietly confident that we can all see out our careers here.

A couple of thousand new homes, with no corresponding infra uplift and the A32 to contend ever morning and evening. Where are all the new primary schools going to go?

Rather closer to home I see Brecon Barracks is going to be shut. OK , close the main income provider of one of the larger towns in one of the most marginal Tory constituencies in the country. Really??????

The great shame is that now, under the axe, no money will be spent on infra. It's bloody freezing here today..... :eek:
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
They spent an awful lot of money at Portland Seadog and then closed it shortly after.
Seems to be a new Navy Tradition

And Cochrane, lovely new WO&SR Mess ( partially from Mess funds IIRC) and ( then) FOSNI / MHQ Pitreavie hoovered up money then shut (90s).

Off the top of my head I can't say if the work in Nelson Wardroom is costing public money or it's from Mess funds.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Also - where will extra bootnecks go at Devonport, given that part of the base has been handed to the city, and RMB Stonehouse and the Royal Citadel are also closing....?
Raleigh will have extra room when the supply school moves to Worthy Down, even more room when the submarine school goes North.

None of this is happening overnight!
 

Ballistic

War Hero
Also - where will extra bootnecks go at Devonport, given that part of the base has been handed to the city, and RMB Stonehouse and the Royal Citadel are also closing....?

HMS Ocean, accommodation ship - remember where you heard it made up first ... ;)
 
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