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  2. Yep - stop shouting. Turn your Caps Lock off....

    Words of Wisdom? Listen and learn. Once you get away from Raleigh into professional training, make sure you take it seriously if you want to get anywhere - the faster you can get up that promotion ladder the better, and if you are switched on to this from an early stage, the more rewarding your career will be!
  3. Get yourself really fit,as it is all my boy seems to be doing,as well as ironing and sewing and doing his kit!
  4. If training is the same as it always was, learn to be able to iron things very small...but very neat...... :D
  5. Levers_Aligned

    Levers_Aligned War Hero Moderator

    Yeah. I've got some advice.

    Firstly, HMS Raleigh is the first part of a sequenced filtration system that does it's best to ensure that some of the bell-ends you line up with on Guy Fawkes Day this year don't become our little problem in two years or so. If you make it up the gangway onto your first ship, you have done very well, ticked many boxes and passed many unseen milestones toward becomeing one of us. Those that you do line up with at Raleigh will quickly polarise into those that can hack it, those that will hack it, those that will eternally struggle but try, those that have no intention on trying and finally those who are there just to either plase the whims of themselves, or others within their circle of freinds and family. Try to be in the first two sets...aim to be someone who will endure the rigours, is by no means a seasoned expert and someone who primarily is there to learn from the experience. Do not, by any mean, believe you can usurp the system, get away with anything or run your own routine. You will **** up. Use that notion with everything you do, be it marching, standing on divisions for ages in the cold, ironing your kit, sitting through tedious powerpoint lectures, having a shit and eating food. Raleigh is designed to wheedle out the ****-ups, tomorrow's admin burdens, next year's ambassadorial nightmare and more pointedly, those who will have you believe that the navy is there for themselves. Go there ready to be tired, bored, fed-up, bruised and disillusioned. Expect to leave Raleigh leaner, sharper, quicker-witted and with a hnadful of associates, some of whom you will never see again, will remember every one of their names and faces. It is a short rite of passage for every perosn, male or female, into a better future. Beleive me.

    When you have left Raleigh, you will have passed the first course in a lifelong series of lifeskills modules, none of which you will recieve any paper recognition for but all of which will temper your thoughts and prepare you for the adventure of a lifetime. Never forget, that when you get out of the taxi and board your first vessel, you are loading everything you own into a small grey box with some you like and some you don't, and going round the planet at governement expense to drink and **** whatever you want. You are a 'professional tourist'. Compare, if you will, your civvy counterparts who pay lastminute prices to go out to Greece to **** some fat lasses from Manchester, drink imitation British beer and eat fish and chips. You get paid to eat the cuisine of the world, drink at tax-free prices and can speak of the exotic beauty of any number of foreign women. Also, in real terms, you have six weeks leave per year (not including seagoers and weekends and public holidays) That gives the navy just over ten months of your time, for twelve months pay. Couple that with the fact that if you were to physically time the amount of grafting you were to do...and I don't include sitting on a gangway with a rifle 'grafting', as much as I do doing would be pushed to get five weeks hard work from you. Per year. Yes. Compare that with 'clocking in' and 'clocking out', overtime, strikes and other such fuckery that civvies have to deal with.

    Just check the RN website for the rates of pay. Move fast through the ranks. Never be afraid to use the rate on your arm and above all else, be proud. Baasic training is not the Royal Navy. The Royal Navy is where I am at the moment, and after nearly thirty years, I'm still getting the best from it.

  6. Levers_Aligned - You ever thought of writing a dissertaion for Rum? I luv your posts but hell, means I have to use my brain :lol:

    Take 3 pairs of clean undies for your kit musters, never wear them though, just an easy way of not cringing when your CPO sniffs them :evil: or did he just do that to the females???
  7. not true surely? was that sniff on standing orders?
  8. True. I remember the inspecting staff doing that 20+ years ago to make sure that they had been washed - and there were always some that were more creative with the folding than with the washing...
  9. It is not on SO's but believe me, the CPO would smell your undies!!

    After my first Kit muster I went out to the spa and brought 3 pairs of cheap and tacky undies just for my muster. I couldn't bare the thought of him sniffing, even though they were clean.

    Also if you can get down to stores, try to see if you can get any extra kit, it all helps :wink:
  10. this is all good, keep it coming.cheers
  11. Remember that you will always regret not doing or trying something. As an ex Bootneck my biggest regret is that I never went for Sniper training or tried out for SC.
    I'm pretty sure I could have done well and passed the sipes course. And the SC course although bloody hard could have happened.

    If the oportunity comes up, go for it.

    Also when you have passed out from Raliegh, remember that you are a small fish in a big pond, everyone else has done basic training, so keep your mouth shut and watch what the old sweats do, best way to learn I found.
  12. Don't take it to heart when higher ranks scream at you, well unless you have done something to deserve it.

    We always thought our CPO was a bastard during basic then once we had passed out, we saw him in a better light.

    Remember, what ever they teach you or do, professional that is, is for your own good.

    Rather than jumping in with both feet, sit back and watch. That way your get to know who is who etc and not be known as an idiot.

    Good luck with basic xxxxx
  13. bloody hell x's an all. so your not all salty sea dogs after all.
    ps can i have a translation of the latin please, know the first bit(seize the day) but stuck after that.
  14. Seize the day, trust no tomorrows
  15. janner

    janner War Hero Book Reviewer

    Beware of the XXX J-D is a three badged Stoker well know (alledgely) for His liking for young skin new entrants, be very careful here
  16. I agree with Levers.

    A word of warning though, which nobody here seems to have mentioned yet. On the parade ground there is what resembles, to civvy eyes at least, a small plaque. They have one at the site of the old HMS Ganges which many contributors here did their training in as innocent 15 year olds. (Well some were innocent, the rest just looked innocent.) This plaque is situated just below the Mast. In the Andrew this is called a rivet. In 1976 some civvy contractors started digging round it and in the process broke the top of the rivet off. This special, golden, rivet kept the parade ground rivetted to the Earth's crust. Once loosened all hell broke loose. The parade ground cracked up and a whole cluster of trainees' messes, adjacent to he quarterdeck, slipped into the sea complete with their compliment of sleeping matelots. The Navy Board, in their wisdom, covered what had happened up by claiming they were decommisioning Ganges because of the raising of the school leaving age back in '73 - but this isn't true. The place is still haunted by their ghosts. DON'T, WHATEVER ELSE YOU DO at Raleigh, damage the top of this golden rivet, if indeed you are able to find it (it is well conceiled), or the same thing will happen. :!: :!: :!:
  17. Fully agree with Levers Aligned.

    The final unscripted statement that I always made at the end of "Pre-entry" briefs I gave to younsters at the AFCO before they went off to Raleigh or Lympstone was:

    They should not consider New and Trade Training as the real Navy. Grin and bear it - the fun starts once they joined their first ship or Commando.
  18. Re: HMS RALEIG

    Take heed of Nozzers warning, do not go looking for the Golden Rivet, don't ask anyone about it and if someone offers to show it you steer well clear.

    As for the rest of the advice, well, I wish someone had offered words like those to me before I entered HMS Raliegh in August 1972.

    Remember, when you get to the dizzy heights of CPO, an unlimited bar does not give you a target to be achieved each month. :oops:

    Good luck and keep us informed
  19. There is a member of the Ganges Association who only served on her! He bought his way out after he'd finished his training there, so only experienced the navy at its grimmest.

    I was horrified to read that the Chiefs still do underpants inpections. I assumed that those practices had gone out with the green baize bag! Oh the horror of Chiefy looking with intense beady eyes for skid marks with all your messmates looking on! :oops: :cry:

    I'm glad I'm still sporting my full set on my avatar, otherwise someone might recognise me! :lol:
  20. I hate laptops ! I just wrote a most eloquent postiing and then put my hand on something and lost the lot!! Anyway best advice i got when i joined at HMS Raleigh was to " Keep my big eyes open and my Big gob shut" It was tough at times with GI,s spitting at you and high port arms at 0300 on the parade deck but worth it. As i was told by one of these stick waving GI,s in a bar in Malta some time later they had just 6 (now 8 weeks) to turn boys ( and now girls too) into men :roll: I wish every day that I had stayed in the service longer and wish i was still there now. If there is a plan afoot to allow good looking 46 year old ex matelots to re-enlist can somebody give me a shout please :) and good luck during your training and RN career.. remember you are joining the senior service and the biggest family you can wish for

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