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HMS GANGES photographs

Always_a_Civvy said:
janner said:
andym said:
Some real happy smiling faces there!!!Nice clean rig as well!!!LOL

Of course they are unhappy, they've been told that they are not good enough to be Sparkers and have had to settle for second best :lol:

Don't tell Flagwagger, Janner, he'll be sobbing all night... :wink:

Seen it already, and treated it to a good stiff ignoring - I put it all down to the fact that the sparkers are just jealous of us sun-bronzed Greek Adonis types in the bunting world :)
 
FlagWagger said:
Always_a_Civvy said:
janner said:
andym said:
Some real happy smiling faces there!!!Nice clean rig as well!!!LOL

Of course they are unhappy, they've been told that they are not good enough to be Sparkers and have had to settle for second best :lol:

Don't tell Flagwagger, Janner, he'll be sobbing all night... :wink:

Seen it already, and treated it to a good stiff ignoring - I put it all down to the fact that the sparkers are just jealous of us sun-bronzed Greek Adonis types in the bunting world :)

When were Sparkers and Bunters seperate Flagwagger? When they had JROs I'm sure they learned both V/S and W/T, or do you predate the "Junior"?
 
Always_a_Civvy said:
When were Sparkers and Bunters seperate Flagwagger? When they had JROs I'm sure they learned both V/S and W/T, or do you predate the "Junior"?

The distinction is not quite as black and white as this. Despite appearances, the sparker and the bunting are reasonably close - they both communicate with outside agencies, its just that one handled strategic messages while the other handled tactical messages. Taking the basic role of communications, there was a significant amount of common subject matter required to be know by both buntings and sparkers, including morse, tape relay, message processing, security, voice procedure, as well as the specialisation specific knowledge - for buntings this included ceremonial, fleetwork, V/S (flags & light) and tactical voice (totally different from basic admin voice). Also at sea, there were also certain tasks within the MSO that traditionally fell to the bunting that involved messages "from the other side", e.g. disting.

When I joined the RNR, my whole New Entry intake were informed that we would be buntings, no choice - the previous entry had all been sparkers. Yes we play up the differences, but we're all communicators at heart. The differences between the two branches arise, in my mind, from the different approaches required - sparkers do their job in a nice warm office, while we buntings did our job in public on the bridge - being a bunting was less about specialised knowledge (as Brigham said elsewhere, it can't be that difficult if a dabber can do it!) but more a state of mind and attitude - its all an act!
 
Always_a_Civvy said:
Thanks Flagwagger. Very imformative. Did you learn to operate a TP or was that purely a Sparkers thingy?

TGN - typing was one of the core skills and regular TPX assessments were a requirement of both buntings and sparkers. Another point you may not have realised, when alongside (on the old 10 MCM sweepers at least) buntings took their turn as duty RO which involved receiving the broadcast and possibly sending ship-shore traffic too (unless you were lucky enough to be in a naval port on hand-message routine). Although fleetwork and V/S were my primary role, I still had to know how to operate all the sparker kit.
 
FlagWagger said:
Always_a_Civvy said:
Thanks Flagwagger. Very imformative. Did you learn to operate a TP or was that purely a Sparkers thingy?

TGN - typing was one of the core skills and regular TPX assessments were a requirement of both buntings and sparkers. Another point you may not have realised, when alongside (on the old 10 MCM sweepers at least) buntings took their turn as duty RO which involved receiving the broadcast and possibly sending ship-shore traffic too (unless you were lucky enough to be in a naval port on hand-message routine). Although fleetwork and V/S were my primary role, I still had to know how to operate all the sparker kit.

Thanks, very interesting. I had no idea. I'd always assumed the branches were completely seperate. What you learn in the RR training school! :p
 
Another pic here - from a very long time ago... Probably before even Uncle Albert was born... and that WAS a long time ago!!! :wink: :lol:

Right, I'd better quickly don my teflon helmet and body armour! :idea:

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Here are a couple of piccies of WRENS at Ganges during World War 2. The first piccy was taken on 26 October 1940. The second was taken around the same time. It's certainly interesting to see Wrens lined up outside Nelson Hall on a wet day.

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Ah thats the HMS Minotaur,renamed HMS Ganges in 1906 then Ganges 2 in 1908 untill being eventually broken up in 1922.Its interesting to note also that also
HMS Agincourt was also renamed as HMS Ganges 2 in 1905 to 1909.

HMS Minotaur as Ganges 2.

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HMS Agincourt.

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Another view of Ganges.
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The Deck of Ganges.

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And a fine body of Men in 1912.

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