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R077

MIA
Dudz said:
Thanks for all the help fella's...

Could anyone tell me where to find the list of accredited I.T degree's that would be accepted for E(IS)? Or is it not publiscised?

Thanks again :)

I would go along the lines of a BSc(hons) with "Computing" in the title, at least according to all the available RN sources. I'm in the process of applying as E(IS) and from the little experience I've had so far, they'll either not know until it's too late or will tell you about a year down the line that it isn't an appropriate degree to have. 8)

EDIT: The guys on here are a different story, between them they'll give you a very good idea. Unless they're just BSing you for giggles..
 

Dudz

Midshipman
Cheers RO77,

My degree will be a Bsc (Hons) Computer Games Programming, bit random i know, lol. If they told me a year down the line wouldn't it be a bit too late? It seems that the E(IS) route is very popular at the moment? Would i have better chances going for Warfare Officer (sub) instead?

Thanks
 

R077

MIA
Dudz said:
Cheers RO77,

My degree will be a Bsc (Hons) Computer Games Programming, bit random i know, lol. If they told me a year down the line wouldn't it be a bit too late? It seems that the E(IS) route is very popular at the moment? Would i have better chances going for Warfare Officer (sub) instead?

Thanks

I have no idea 8)
 

Meatballs

Midshipman
I only had a managed a low AIB pass but offered (the last place in Sept afaik) for E(IS).

Dudz, speak to people at your uni, people doing arts could choose the title of their degree based on their chosen modules, and didn't actually have to graduate with what they started with!

My score for pilot was higher as my FATs were competitive but I was still only told I had a reasonable chance for the January intake. Don't know about Warfare though.
 

Dudz

Midshipman
Guzzler said:
Dudz said:
Bsc (Hons) Computer Games Programming

Good one.

Seriously though, what will you have a degree in?
Lol, cheers mate....

I assume you know exactly what my degree entails to make snide remarks like that? Just looking for some friendly advice fella' thats all.

:)
 

Guzzler

War Hero
Don't throw your toys out sweetie, only having a laugh at your expense. Please don't tell me it comes as a surprise.

No, I clearly don't know exactly what your degree entails, though I assume from its title it's something to do with computer games.

Excuse me whilst I chortle.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Guzzler said:
Excuse me whilst I chortle.

Ditto.

Meatballs said:
...as far as I'm aware a first degree means an undergraduate degree, not a 1st class honours etc. The wording on the RN website is misleading if you ask me.

Yep, 100% agree, the RN Website states: “Qualifications:
A recognised first degree in a computing-based subject, 180 UCAS points and 5 GCSEs (A*-C)/ 5 Scottish Standard grades (1-3)/ equivalent, including English and maths. Not all courses and qualifications, especially those at BTEC or of a more vocational nature
“ and yet the E(IS) download states: “If you are still at school or a
school-leaver You can apply for Naval College Entry and go straight to Britannia Royal Naval College to begin your officer training. To do this you need at least 180 UCAS points and five GCSEs (A*–C)/ Scottish Standard grades (1-3)/ equivalent, which must include English and maths
â€.

I’ve given-up trying to help correct errors on the RN website after getting my ears bent back for having the effrontery to suggest that advertising University Cadetships was misleading because we had none to offer other than medical ones. Spookily, non-medical cadetships have now been removed from the site, without a whisper.
 

Dudz

Midshipman
Guzzler said:
Don't throw your toys out sweetie, only having a laugh at your expense. Please don't tell me it comes as a surprise.

No, I clearly don't know exactly what your degree entails, though I assume from its title it's something to do with computer games.

Excuse me whilst I chortle.
Do i come across as i annoyed/confrontational? If so i apologise.

It' basically software engineering but for PC games instead of commercial software, i don't see what you find funny but w.e, i don't want to get into an arguement with a total stranger on the internet :) , i chose the degree because i tend to learn subjects better if i enjoy myself whilst doing them if that helps you in understanding my POV. Again, apologies if you've taken offence to anything i've said, i don't mean to offend, cheers.

:D
 

Dudz

Midshipman
Guzzler said:
Not at all.

Apologies right back :whax:

Is that one of yours? :lol:
Good man :)

This is one of mine, it will form my dissertation when it's done :D

Threads gone a bit off topic too, lol.
 

Guzzler

War Hero
It has indeed, but I'm intrigued.

I'm sure you're a clever chap, but drawing sci-fi computer stuff doesn't strike me as all that...err...degree-ish. Surely it's more of an average vocational skill? It's hardly a broad subject is it?

Physics covers loads of stuff.

Maths covers loads of stuff.

Computer games covers computer games.

Anyway, I'm an old fart and have almost given up on trying to understand all this.

Good luck and, err, nice picture.
 

captainobvious

Lantern Swinger
I think what he's trying to say is that he wrote the game engine which produced that screenshot, it doesn't look like a photoshop mockup.

If that's the case, he's probably got the programming skill to write all manner of applications as you can't smash together something like that using visual studio and a couple of internet how-to guides. In much the same way as physics covers lots of things, computer game programming covers a lot of things (albeit pretty much all programming related).
 

Dudz

Midshipman
3D Programming relies heavily on strong Psyhics, Maths and problem solving skills, for example, doing a simple transformation of a 3D object requires tons of Matrix calculations if you want it to look right, once you start delving deeper into Vector math, it becomes much harder...

When you create a 3D game you're effectively modelling real world physics, that means you must have a thorough understanding of the math behind them in order to write them into your code if you want your game to be even semi-realistic. I can see where you're coming from though, you definately can't compare it to more traditional degrees.

Cheers for the chat fella' G'night :)
 

R077

MIA
Here we go folks! Computing degrees for dummies!

Games programming: hardest programming based course, extreme maths/physics/design as you are essentially creating and dictating the behavioural traits of actors and environment in real-time based on real-world limitations (or not). Generally these courses are split between designing or engineering, with the former orientated more towards software development and the latter more to monkey-work with programming.

Networking: Difficult and a little dull.

Multimedia: Medium difficulty depending on programming content, ranges from titting around in flash to scripting MM apps in IDE's such as Visual Studio/Director etc. The course I was on involved an element of MM from year 3 to 4, though years 1/2 was heavily programming/software design/computer architecture/Operating systems and Command Protocols etc etc.

Software development: For splitters! Manage and design software following strict rules and guidelines as ordained by Master Sommerville and the UML apps. Easy marks :p

All the above are usually titled along the lines "Computing with X" and are at BSc (hons) level around 99% of the time. It's easy to think of games design as a mediocre vocational course but the truth is that it is arguably the most difficult of all the computing disciplines as it needs the most complicated aspects of all it's fellow fields: SE, MM, general Programming (usually at high and low levels and in numerous languages depending on IDE/platform.)

E.g the average single/dual or even quad-core PC is easy to program for in all languages & games design/development is well tried and tested. The Sony PS3 utilises 8 SPE cell type processors with variable configurations and is reputed to be a nightmare for programming. Only the best are eventually able to interpret the configuration and design interfaces to enable easier future development.

Games programming easy? Try it!
 

Dudz

Midshipman
R077 said:
Here we go folks! Computing degrees for dummies!

Games programming: hardest programming based course, extreme maths/physics/design as you are essentially creating and dictating the behavioural traits of actors and environment in real-time based on real-world limitations (or not). Generally these courses are split between designing or engineering, with the former orientated more towards software development and the latter more to monkey-work with programming.

Networking: Difficult and a little dull.

Multimedia: Medium difficulty depending on programming content, ranges from titting around in flash to scripting MM apps in IDE's such as Visual Studio/Director etc. The course I was on involved an element of MM from year 3 to 4, though years 1/2 was heavily programming/software design/computer architecture/Operating systems and Command Protocols etc etc.

Software development: For splitters! Manage and design software following strict rules and guidelines as ordained by Master Sommerville and the UML apps. Easy marks :p

All the above are usually titled along the lines "Computing with X" and are at BSc (hons) level around 99% of the time. It's easy to think of games design as a mediocre vocational course but the truth is that it is arguably the most difficult of all the computing disciplines as it needs the most complicated aspects of all it's fellow fields: SE, MM, general Programming (usually at high and low levels and in numerous languages depending on IDE/platform.)

E.g the average single/dual or even quad-core PC is easy to program for in all languages & games design/development is well tried and tested. The Sony PS3 utilises 8 SPE cell type processors with variable configurations and is reputed to be a nightmare for programming. Only the best are eventually able to interpret the configuration and design interfaces to enable easier future development.

Games programming easy? Try it!

Spot on mate!
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
R077 said:
Games programming easy? Try it!

Yawn....eh whazzat?

Harder than fighting for your country for real?

Respect, dude. Let's have a minutes silence for computer gaming programmers.
 

R077

MIA
:roll:

Perspective and context fellas. If I were comparing the feat of programming to serving or running for a while then maybe you would be right enough with your vehement indifference although I was purely highlighting the computing merit within a games degree for those who don't have/understand degrees in computing.

*YAWN

EDIT: If you're over 35 then I apologise sincerely and I will bring you your paper and cup of tea shortly.
 

Dudz

Midshipman
Ninja_Stoker said:
R077 said:
Games programming easy? Try it!

Yawn....eh whazzat?

Harder than fighting for your country for real?

Respect, dude. Let's have a minutes silence for computer gaming programmers.
Certainly not.

I have the utmost respect for our armed forces, more so since i lost one of my best friends in Afganistan, believe me i wouldn't be on this site enquiring about joining if i felt otherwise.

Could we please get back to the topic at hand or just delete the thread if people wish to persist in deviating from the OP.

Thanks
 
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