hey there, new member looking for some advice

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  1. Hi there guys and girls, I joined up in order to ask for a little advice. I'm 18 and am interested in a career in the armed forces. After much consideration i decided the Navy was probably my best bet, and it sold itself mainly because of it's variety of trades and its scope for travel.

    A couple of weeks ago I went to my local AFCO (London) and got the application form. I was originally looking for an engineering role because of the oppurtunities I'd have after leaving the Navy, but after thinking about it for the last two weeks I'm not sure. I really want to enjoy my Navy experience to the best it can get and i don't want to regret what i choose later on. So basically, I want to travel as much as possible, and I don't want to be down in an engine room for most of my 20's. I just wondered if anybody could recommend a branch that would offer me both of these in large doses. I don't have any particular responsibilities back home so I could easily, and perhaps enjoy, a big amount of sea time. I just want to see the world and enjoy the company of the people i work with.

    Any feedback will be greatly appreciated, because I'm at such a crossroads in my life, and it seems like such a huge, daunting step.
     
  2. Choosing the right branch is the most important factor in enjoying your time, so take your time and get it right. Personally I would recommend anything with the Fleet Air Arm.

    Good luck!
     
  3. Welcome to the site mate , can't offer any advice , been outside to long , loads of other peaple on here will jump in I'm sure , best of luck though ,
     
  4. Joining as a wafu AET (Fleet air arm) would get you alot of engineering work in later life and you would get alot of carrier time. However there is the possibility of ET(WE) which, if selected for artificer would get you a foundation degree in engineering (you can go to Portsmouth uni and top it up to a full degree. That would get you on ship doing engineering and not be stuck down the main machinery space with the snagyest personnel in the fleet! Don't forget that once you have done four years and reached a given standard in your branch, you can apply for any of the sideways entry branches such as, Regulator (Navy police, good postings ie Deigo Garceia indian ocean) or Photographer (good drafts, good training and very well reconised training. There is my branch too mate. AB(CIS) or communications, lots of sea time there and if you are good or mad enough time with the marines and possibly a commando course. We always need good comms bods. You can change to artificer from CIS as well. Hope this helps. Any other questions give me a shout.

    Jock
     
  5. If you want to get a lot of seatime and get around the place, seaman spec is pretty good - not much to take outside with you afterwards though. I prob should big up my own branch and suggest you look into being a Medical Assistant, but you're more likely to spend time in the UK and again, no direct civvy-recognised qualifications (at the minute!).

    Good luck.
     
  6. Thanks everyone for such swift replies, and really helpful ones too. Good to see a fear and loathing fan, and aet seems to sound good in terms of getting the best of both worlds.

    also, how easy is it to get chosen for an artificier? ive only done gcse's, although i got pretty good grades
     
  7. Artificers are no longer recruited.
     
  8. Not in my day!!
     
  9. a few of my mates are AETs and all they do is stay on base near summerset.

    the best i could advise would be ET(WE) as your not inside all the time in an engine room plus you can gain up to a degree.
     
  10. The idea that ME's spend all their time "down an engine room" is pretty much outdated. We have responsibilities in every part of the ship, so as a stoker you pretty much get around everywhere. If you have a genuine interest in real engineering, rather than changing components or PCB's, consider ET(ME).
    As a word of warning, a lot of the people who pot on these threads haven't been to sea this millennium, if ever, so take anything you read on here with a pinch of salt.
     
  11. Speak for yourself clanky I have done more seatime on the crest of one wave. and as for "The idea that ME's spend all their time "down an engine room" is pretty much outdated." I think not,
    most do unless your in the MCR, chippies party or in your fart sack.
     
  12. I've done a bit of sea time myself mate. I'm going to make 2 assumptions about you.....
    1 You are outside now.
    2 You where not a stoker.

    I'll stand by the comments in my previous post. The notion that ME's spend all their time shovelling coal into the boilerfront is outmoded. It is certainly wrong to to be advising a potential recruit against a particular branch using false information. If I was to state on this thread "Don't be a Dabber, cos all they do is scrub flats" I'd expect any to be corrected.
    Waiting for my assumptions to be corrected.
     
  13. [/quote]
    I've done a bit of sea time myself mate. I'm going to make 2 assumptions about you.....
    1 You are outside now.
    2 You where not a stoker.

    I'll stand by the comments in my previous post. The notion that ME's spend all their time shovelling coal into the boilerfront is outmoded. It is certainly wrong to to be advising a potential recruit against a particular branch using false information. If I was to state on this thread "Don't be a Dabber, cos all they do is scrub flats" I'd expect any to be corrected.
    Waiting for my assumptions to be corrected.[/quote]

    First assumption correct second incorrect.

    As for you comments "The notion that ME's spend all their time shovelling coal into the boilerfront is outmoded" you have changed it from the previous post.
    They Do spend a lot of time in the engine room, FAMR,AAMR,Tillar Flat call it what you want. And the only time they are not down in one of these is as stated before Chippies party,MCR or Fart Sack
     
  14. I've done a bit of sea time myself mate. I'm going to make 2 assumptions about you.....
    1 You are outside now.
    2 You where not a stoker.

    I'll stand by the comments in my previous post. The notion that ME's spend all their time shovelling coal into the boilerfront is outmoded. It is certainly wrong to to be advising a potential recruit against a particular branch using false information. If I was to state on this thread "Don't be a Dabber, cos all they do is scrub flats" I'd expect any to be corrected.
    Waiting for my assumptions to be corrected.[/quote]

    First assumption correct second incorrect.

    As for you comments "The notion that ME's spend all their time shovelling coal into the boilerfront is outmoded" you have changed it from the previous post.
    They Do spend a lot of time in the engine room, FAMR,AAMR,Tillar Flat call it what you want. And the only time they are not down in one of these is as stated before Chippies party,MCR or Fart Sack[/quote]

    Even so, the only ones who routinely work with a view of the outside world are the bridge watchkeeprers, every one else mainly works inside. Oops I almost forgot those involved with flying operations, but perhaps that is understandable.
     
  15. Tiffs may not be recruited any more, however if you have 5 passes in GCSE including math and english then you can be selected for training as a artifficer (or whatever they are calling it now) at a later date. Don't forget however that the same thing apply to WE folk. As a WE however you will get more sea time than you know what to do with. Also if you gain some A levels you can apply for CW papers (potential officer). The only thing that will limit your options is yourself.

    Granted it has been about 20 months since I last been out on the oggin (been working with the booties) yet on my last ship, with the exception of chippies party and the so, the only stoker I saw out of the machinery spaces was in DHP! WE will at lest get you some fresh air.

    Still pick your branch and take your chance!
     
  16. Be careful when selecting your trade. The RN is a great service to belong to but sooner or later you will leave. If you intend serving until 55 (depending on age at joining) you should leave with a decent pension, but you still have 13 working years left before the old age pension kicks in.
    There is a life after the RN, by thinking carefully and selecting the right trade you may be able to make life more comfortable when this eventuality happens.
    Fleet air arm gives you a good engineering background or in the case of the Aircraft handler branch skills which will be welcome at any airport in any country.
    Weapons engineering, good engineering background and the skills learnt can be transferred to most civilian engineering jobs.
    Cook, lots of ex navy chefs doing well in hotels and the catering trade.
    Seaman specialists and officer stewards. The only reason that would choose either of these branches would be if I couldn't get in the RN in any other branch. Though if you are bright enough and have the potential it may be possible to study hard, attain the qualifications needed for RN officer and apply for the correct papers to be raised to achieve this (don't know how this is carried out in the present navy).
     
  17. I've done a bit of sea time myself mate. I'm going to make 2 assumptions about you.....
    1 You are outside now.
    2 You where not a stoker.

    I'll stand by the comments in my previous post. The notion that ME's spend all their time shovelling coal into the boilerfront is outmoded. It is certainly wrong to to be advising a potential recruit against a particular branch using false information. If I was to state on this thread "Don't be a Dabber, cos all they do is scrub flats" I'd expect any to be corrected.
    Waiting for my assumptions to be corrected.[/quote]

    First assumption correct second incorrect.

    As for you comments "The notion that ME's spend all their time shovelling coal into the boilerfront is outmoded" you have changed it from the previous post.
    They Do spend a lot of time in the engine room, FAMR,AAMR,Tillar Flat call it what you want. And the only time they are not down in one of these is as stated before Chippies party,MCR or Fart Sack[/quote]

    So apart from all the upperdeck work carried out as part of Chippies Party, L Section, Hydraulics maintainer, controls, boats (including time as Landing craft crews) Tanky, Flight Deck services,(I could go on!}we are stuck indoors.I wont even begin to list the range of "whole ship" taskings that take us away from the machinery spaces.I personally haven't had a job that hasn't involved spending a large proportion out of doors for years. Probably almost as long as you last went to sea (I'm going to make another assumption and guess that that the most modern ship you had was a 42). I'll repeat my original point, selecting ET(ME) as a branch will not commit you to 18 or 22 years working exclusively in machinery spaces.It will however, supply a variety of employment options not open to some other branches.
     
  18. Funnily enough, I've considered the Specs branch as an option a few times.
     
  19. Perhaps you needed to get out of the MCO a bit more often!

    BTW, there is not neccesarily any requirement for an A level prior to CW papers being raised.
    Artificer selection is effectively over, the foundation degree to which you refer is available to all the ET branches.
     
  20. First assumption correct second incorrect.

    As for you comments "The notion that ME's spend all their time shovelling coal into the boilerfront is outmoded" you have changed it from the previous post.
    They Do spend a lot of time in the engine room, FAMR,AAMR,Tillar Flat call it what you want. And the only time they are not down in one of these is as stated before Chippies party,MCR or Fart Sack[/quote]

    So apart from all the upperdeck work carried out as part of Chippies Party, L Section, Hydraulics maintainer, controls, boats (including time as Landing craft crews) Tanky, Flight Deck services,(I could go on!}we are stuck indoors.I wont even begin to list the range of "whole ship" taskings that take us away from the machinery spaces.I personally haven't had a job that hasn't involved spending a large proportion out of doors for years. Probably almost as long as you last went to sea (I'm going to make another assumption and guess that that the most modern ship you had was a 42). I'll repeat my original point, selecting ET(ME) as a branch will not commit you to 18 or 22 years working exclusively in machinery spaces.It will however, supply a variety of employment options not open to some other branches.[/quote]

    Your last assumption alas is also incorrect
    My assumption is you have done some time on a flat top tied up at Fountain lake Jetty or Flat top in Guzz
     

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