help after being dudt

chrismonc87

Lantern Swinger
#1
Hi all
yesterday i got dudt from raleigh and i am 100% sure i want to get back there asap LT CDR H*** (OCIRT) said i have to wait 2 years till i can reaply is there anyway i can sorten the time so i can get back in the mod asap. i have been given a good report from my dto and di and all the other div staff have as well.
cheers
Chris
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#7
chrismonc87 said:
Hi all
yesterday i got dudt from raleigh and i am 100% sure i want to get back there asap (OCIRT) said i have to wait 2 years till i can reaply is there anyway i can sorten the time so i can get back in the mod asap. i have been given a good report from my dto and di and all the other div staff have as well.
cheers
Chris
Sorry to hear of your circumstances.

Individuals are given every opportunity to address their perceived shortcomings prior to discharge & are formally warned of the reasons & implications of being Discharged Unsuitable During Training (Or 'sacked' in common parlance).

We've noted an increase of Recruits arriving physically unprepared.

As an equal opportunities employer, it's accepted that individuals may change their ways, but if the Officer in Charge states two years, then two years it is unfortunately.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#13
masterchef said:
...unless there's an appeal process?
The individual is invited to state any complaint or appeal at the time of a series of warnings & again before the subsequent discharge. A retrospective appeal is not permissable.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#14
As stated, two years must elapse before a fresh application can be accepted for Naval Services.

There is nothing to stop an individual applying to join the RAF or Army now, should they choose, but previous service history maybe taken into consideration ith regard the selection decision.
 

chrismonc87

Lantern Swinger
#15
i wont be appealing i accepted why i got dudt.
just wish i could join quicker. also my di was annoyed/angry that my afco didnt send me on an rnac as she said it would have helped me
 
#16
Ninja_Stoker said:
As stated, two years must elapse before a fresh application can be accepted for Naval Services.

There is nothing to stop an individual applying to join the RAF or Army now, should they choose, but previous service history maybe taken into consideration with regard the selection decision.
This is the most diplomatic "You fuckin blew it" statement I have seen in years.
BZ Ninja :wink: :roll: :D

No reply expected :wink:
 
#18
chrismonc87 said:
Hi all
yesterday i got dudt from raleigh and i am 100% sure i want to get back there asap LT CDR H*** (OCIRT) said i have to wait 2 years till i can reaply is there anyway i can sorten the time so i can get back in the mod asap. i have been given a good report from my dto and di and all the other div staff have as well.cheers
Chris
That's a bit odd. Your divisonal staff gave you a good report but you were still discharged unsuitable during training. They are the one's who would have recommended your discharge and then received the support of the command to make it so. Now tell us the real story.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#19
chrismonc87 said:
i wont be appealing i accepted why i got dudt.
just wish i could join quicker. also my di was annoyed/angry that my afco didnt send me on an rnac as she said it would have helped me
To be honest Chris, not wishing to add to the hurt, but the RPC lasts 4 days & an element includes "how to iron". All recruits are usually taught this anyway during their 9 weeks phase one training & if needs be training extensions are given for those who cannot make the grade upon subsequent repeated attempts.

If your DI truly felt that your discharge was directly due to not attending an RPC, then it would seem the RPC can achieve in 4 days what Raleigh cannot achieve in 9 weeks. Ironcally Raleigh used to have a New Entry division which was removed from phase one training and replaced by a voluntary (unpaid) RPC.

All applicants are advised by AFCOs to learn basic washing & ironing skills together with the need to physically prepare for the fitness & swimming standards and it's also in writing, within the joining letter. I've yet to hear of an AFCO declining a request to attend an RPC although admittedly the offer of an RPC can be enveloped in the plethora of additional help & advice offered by your AFCO.
 

Graf

Lantern Swinger
#20
Ninja_Stoker said:
masterchef said:
...unless there's an appeal process?
The individual is invited to state any complaint or appeal at the time of a series of warnings & again before the subsequent discharge. A retrospective appeal is not permissable.
Sorry to correct you Ninja, but an individual has up to 3 months from date of discharge to put in a complaint regarding the dismissal. While the individual can not complain about the decision to DUDT, they can complain about the length of time before they may re-apply for the navy and request a shorter time limit be placed on them.
 

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