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has the welfare state wrecked Britain?

wompingwillow said:
Do you also receive housing benefit and do you pay council tax? Please add up the value of all your benefits not just quote one of them

The benefits I quoted are the benefits that I see, e.g the money I get in my pocket each week, as in a wage, just like someone would quote the figure they see after tax, NI and students loans have gone out.

I actually get about £120 a week income support, however before the money is paid to me, my water rates, furniture grant and NI ( voluntary contributions) come out. My HB and CTB never pass through my hands so therefore even if I wanted to I don't get to spend them.

Housing benefit and council tax benefit are each worth a certain amount of money even if you never see them. As for furniture grant coming out and NI contributions the furniture grant was a loan which you are in the process of repaying while NI contributions are made for all claiments (my NI contributions will be made for me until I reach 65 this is the only benefit that I am entitled to though I have paid into the system for over 45 years). to get a true figure of what your total benefits amount to you must add to the £120 the rent which would normally be paid by a wage earner living in a similar property and the council tax that would be paid by a wage earner. Benefits are not purely what you get in your hand
 
slim said:
wompingwillow said:
Do you also receive housing benefit and do you pay council tax? Please add up the value of all your benefits not just quote one of them

The benefits I quoted are the benefits that I see, e.g the money I get in my pocket each week, as in a wage, just like someone would quote the figure they see after tax, NI and students loans have gone out.

I actually get about £120 a week income support, however before the money is paid to me, my water rates, furniture grant and NI ( voluntary contributions) come out. My HB and CTB never pass through my hands so therefore even if I wanted to I don't get to spend them.

while NI contributions are made for all claiments (my NI contributions will be made for me until I reach 65 this is the only benefit that I am entitled to though I have paid into the system for over 45 years).

For old age pension purposes -100% entitlement -if you have paid the NI stamp for 44 years then you don't need to pay anymore .
Also at 65 you don't pay NI contributions.
 
Greenie said:
slim said:
wompingwillow said:
Do you also receive housing benefit and do you pay council tax? Please add up the value of all your benefits not just quote one of them

The benefits I quoted are the benefits that I see, e.g the money I get in my pocket each week, as in a wage, just like someone would quote the figure they see after tax, NI and students loans have gone out.

I actually get about £120 a week income support, however before the money is paid to me, my water rates, furniture grant and NI ( voluntary contributions) come out. My HB and CTB never pass through my hands so therefore even if I wanted to I don't get to spend them.

while NI contributions are made for all claiments (my NI contributions will be made for me until I reach 65 this is the only benefit that I am entitled to though I have paid into the system for over 45 years).

For old age pension purposes -100% entitlement -if you have paid the NI stamp for 44 years then you don't need to pay anymore .
Also at 65 you don't pay NI contributions.

I am 61 and have paid NI contributions for 44 years. I no longer sign on as when over the age of 60 NI contributions are paid on your behalf. Therefore I am receiving benefits. At age of 65 Iwill receive my government pension. This is also classed as a benifit, I don't understand why as I have been paying for it most of my life.
 

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