Hansard answer on total number of RNR deployed since 2002

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by TF110, Sep 17, 2007.

Welcome to the Navy Net aka Rum Ration

The UK's largest and busiest UNofficial RN website.

The heart of the site is the forum area, including:

  1. Hopefully this might shut a few of the old and bold up...

    Navy: Reserve Forces
    Mr. Brazier: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many Royal Navy reservists were deployed in each year since 2000-01, broken down by location. [140242]


    10 Sep 2007 : Column 1895W

    Mr. Bob Ainsworth [holding answer 6 July 2007, pursuant to the reply, 19 June 2007, Official Report, c. 1767W]: The correct table is published as follows:

    Location 2002-03 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07 2007-08 Total
    Iraq
    320
    126
    10
    5
    39
    27
    527

    Afghanistan
    —
    —
    —
    3
    26
    12
    41

    Bosnia
    —
    —
    1
    1
    —
    —
    2

    North East Africa
    —
    —
    —
    —
    2
    1
    3

    Balkans
    —
    —
    1
    3
    24
    1
    29

    Other
    —
    —
    4
    6
    5
    3
    18

    Total
    320
    126
    16
    18
    96
    44
    620
     
  2. Re: Hansard answer on total number of RNR deployed since 200

    Just to give a fuller picture and not hiding any of the figuers given in the answer to the parlimentary question and to give our old and Bold some more ammunitionn to beeat the reservists over the head with. DONT TELL Half truthes they will bight you in the arse :rambo:
    Quote:
    Hopefully this might shut a few of the old and bold up...

    Here we GO!

    RNR deployment breakdown. Figures from answers given in parliament



    2002-03 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07 2007-08 Total
    Location
    Iraq 320 126 10 5 39 27 527
    Afghanistan — — — 3 26 12 41
    Bosnia — — 1 1 — — 2
    North East Africa — — — — 2 1 3
    Balkans — — 1 3 24 1 29
    Other — — 4 6 5 3 18
    Total 320 126 16 18 96 44 620


    % of RNR Total stregth Deployed
    2002 to 2003 = 14.49%
    2003 to 2004 = 5.70%
    2004 to 2005 = 0.70%
    2005 to 2006 = 0.80%
    2006 to 2007 = 4.34%
    2007 to 2008 = 1.99%



    1% = [(1273rating + 935Officers)]/100 = 22.08
     
  3. interesting!
     
  4. Re: Hansard answer on total number of RNR deployed since 200

    Cripes! The PINCH has begun reeling them in..............landing nets ready....
     
  5. Re: Hansard answer on total number of RNR deployed since 200

    The devil made me do it honest :thumright: :thumright: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
     
  6. That's pretty impressive - that almost 30% have been mobilised in the last 5 years. Of course I'm overlooking any that have gone round the buoy, but in general a reservist can only be mobilised for something like 9 months in every 27 (or something similar...depends on type of mob).

    Whilst it's nothing like the thrashing the TA are getting, which is really taking its toll, I'm impressed that 30% have come away from their 'normal' lives to deploy.

    On top of that, you've got about 10% of FTRS billets filled by RNR (the rest are regular reserves) so also making an operational contribution. Then you've got the 2-weeks a year of so many which are live working, and even the majority of exercise participation is providing manpower to the regular service, enabling greater operational commitment.

    Pinch is absolutely right not to allow figures to blind - they're not massive numbers - but I'm pretty impressed with this overall contribution.

    In terms of man days (or 'people' days!) contributed, it's not a bad picture at all.
     
  7. In terms of sustainability they're at a similar level to the RN - look at total deployed RN vs total size and you'll probably see a similar ratio. The key thing is, that this figure is sustainable - not just structured for 'the big bang' of 20 years ago. The RNR is now a permanently mobilisable asset for the RN.
     
  8. Re: Hansard answer on total number of RNR deployed since 200

    I think the other aspect is that the numbers quoted probably don't reflect those mobilised in UK as backfill to release regulars onto ops. That probably adds some.

    Unfortunately the raw figures don't reflect what's done by the individuals deployed.

    Mind you, the inference from the point made by Pinch remains valid as well, there is an overhead within the RNR which doesn't support the deployability requirement. From what I've heard, that is something which is of active interest to CMR.
     
  9. Any figures available re the branches deployed?
     
  10. Re: Hansard answer on total number of RNR deployed since 200

    On the face of it the percentage deployed over the last 2/3 years seem very small. However, it does not take into account FTRS, the proportion that are on the trained strength (it takes an awful lot longer to get someone to the trained strength in the RNR than the regulars, and therefore deployable), and the disproportionate loading of some of the mobilisations on some specialisations and ranks/rates. Also the number that are on the RNR books is rather misleading for many reasons, so trying to work out a percentage deployed figure could be rather variable!

    Still, the Army and RAF seem a lot better at utilising their Reserves, and much of the mobilisation of the RNR over the last year or two has been to fill slots in their organisations (and the RM) on Telic and Herrick.

    I guess the other argument is that current operations are predominantly land based. Should they go sea based then you'll see a far greater proportion of the RNR mobilised. Some may see the 15% mobilised for Telic 1 as low, but Roulement did not occur as the initial land campaign was unexpectedly swift.
     

Share This Page