Guzz to close in 5 years???

NotmeChief

Banned
We were never in doubt that this was the intention despite the lies of the smarmy jock.

I wonder if his wife believes him when he says he has been working late, he is the biggest liar and con artist this parliament has ever known.
 

Seaweed

RIP
Book Reviewer
A strategically ridiculous decision in view of the uncertainty over Scotland and its "Government"'s anti-nuclear views. Obviously votes count more than the defence of the United Kingdom. This Govt needs reminding that we accept government in this country primarily to ensure the Queen's Peace at home and the defence of the Realm. The former has been pretty well abandoned and now the latter also. All the rest is trimmings which we will soon no longer be rich enough to afford.
 
Clearly Michael Smith doesn't know the difference between a Dockyard and a Base.

Having spent all that money on the nuclear facility, It clearly makes sense to gash it for the geologically unstable Jockanese pit. Astutes may have longer planned LOP(R) cycles but we still need support for the V boats. How long is our practical experience of long LOP(R) cycles? Where's the safe insurance option?

The CVFs are a blessing to this Government. They need Rosyth to build the things and they're too big for Guz. Find an excuse for not needing its safe nuclear facility and bye bye Guz.
 

theGimpMK2

Lantern Swinger
I'm sure this is just "briefing" in the race between Pompey and Guz not to be culled

It is from a "senior MOD source" which could mean owt TBH

What the effects on Guz will be if it all goes I have no idea!!!!!!! Thoughts please
 

flippineck

Lantern Swinger
What is more worrying is the article by Simon Jenkins later on in the times, which boils down to the Navy not needing the carriers because the army are locking in two wars.

It looks like a thinly vailed stab by the Army.

Looks like the subject for a new thread but i don't know how to do that!
 

IDOITDEEPER

War Hero
Does it matter? After all we will still have Lake Windermere on which to base and support what will be left of our Navy in five years time!

IDOITDEEPER
 
flippineck said:
What is more worrying is the article by Simon Jenkins later on in the times, which boils down to the Navy not needing the carriers because the army are locking in two wars.

It looks like a thinly vailed stab by the Army.

Looks like the subject for a new thread but i don't know how to do that!

Already happening on ARRSE here and here.
 

pompeyexpat

War Hero
Crap! There's no way Guzz dockyard will be closed in 5 years. I'm not saying it won't happen at somepoint but not that soon. A sensational headline designed to grab attention with the figure of 5 years pulled out of the air based on the last V boat refit being complete by 2012. Given DMLs (sorry, Bacbcock Marines) history I wouldn't expect them to rush the next 2 refits through and be done within 5 years. Victorious isn't out yet! The T boats will not have all decommsioned within 5 years either.

Eventually all S/Ms will be based in Faslane true, and they won't require refuelling. However, they will still require RAMPS/DAMPS though, and there is only one shiplift in Faslane. While I realise Rosyth, also run by Babcock, is capable of docking S/Ms, Devonport is traditionally a Labour voting area and they're going to need the votes come the next election. I would suggest there will still be a dockyard (albeit a scaled down one) in Devonport for a little while yet.
 
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