To All,Are you serving? If so you should have access to 1SL's dit which explains all.
If you're not, why do you care?
Yep got mine today.To All,
Some of those who have ceased serving (yet DO care one way or the other) have now received that 1SL's dit: D/CNS/3/3/3/2. Mine arrived today from the Submariner’s Association** with this preface:
//This is being sent to multiple recipients.
Please pass this to all members of your branch who cannot receive e-mail.
This is the official statement and not a ‘wind-up’.//
That Red & Underlined is as received. That D/CNS notice was clearly sent out to those serving in advance of the Minister’s announcement and explains both the background and rationale.
As I am uncertain of it’s Classification/Dist. List I am loathe to post the full text at RR, but it should be safe to at least quote the first & final paragraphs.
WOMEN IN SUBMARINES
The Secretary of State will announce tomorrow that the restrictions on women serving in submarines will be lifted. I am writing (in advance on an embargoed basis) to explain the background to this decision, to highlight the timelines for implementation of the revised policy and to gain your support for what is an historic and positive day for the Submarine Service and the Royal Navy…
… The Navy Board advice was that implementation should be on a phased introduction of female personnel into submarines…
… I know that this decision may not be universally supported, and may generate contrasting headlines and editorials in the media. In this regard we will be engaging directly with submariners and their families over the next few days. Other navies around the world have introduced female personnel into their submarines with considerable success. You may also be aware the US Navy has announced the introduction of female officers into their SSBN/SSGN fleet.
Leadership will be key in overcoming any prejudice, in exactly the same way it was when we introduced female personnel into the Surface Fleet – a change that today attracts no debate. Above all, we need to recognise, whether male or female, it is professional competence that is the most important characteristic of those who serve at sea, and you can be sure that we will not be reducing our training standards for those whose role it will be to operate and maintain the Royal Navy’s submarine flotilla.
Received in Green but that Bold text is mine. Folks (like it or not) it's been coming for a long time so the detractors, Joining/Serving/Outside, should have all got used to it by now.
** BTW - Have any other Associations received this Notice, too?
It's the Sun, apparently I'm one of "Their boys" too.Women on submarines by 2013 | The Sun |News|Campaigns|Our Boys
Not awfully impressed by the caption under the photograph, "Girls to serve ... HMS Astute".
'Women', not 'Girls'.
Totally agree with Off_les_Aura but think that it will be implemented at minimal cost and the WO2s, Coxns and ChOPS will be turfed out of the Upper Bunk Space and told to stop dripping and man up. That won't breed any animosity will it!Did anyone read the truely condescending "Q & A" dit that accompanied the statement? Some real gems in there that I am paraphrasing:
"Will I have to act differently in the company of female submariners" (!)
"Can I walk around naked on the boat?" (!!)
"What would happen if I accidently brush past a female in a confined space" (really?!)
"Will female submariners be subjected to the same water rationing as their male counterparts?" FFS!
I was half expecting to see "When female submariners menstruate, will the smell attract sharks?"
Total shite. Who asks these questions?
How about asking "If an all-female bunk-space is not at full complement and there are males having to hot-bunk, is that fair?"
IMO if we're going to do this properly then it should be total integration. No separate bunk spaces, no naked sleeping, use your common sense. There are shower curtains in the showers, lockable doors on the shitters and curtains in your pit. It shouldn't be a problem. Are we really still living in a Carry-On film these days?
A female submariner should be completely interchangeable with her male counterpart.
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