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Grounded nuclear sub HMS Astute damaged during rescue

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NelliesWellies12

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er no, the fact that she ran aground isn't new news however that she was damaged by one of the tugs whilst being rescued is new news, its one of the lead items on bbc radio news today and look at the date the article was published.
 

dboy

Badgeman
Wow, that daily record article is very balanced isn't it ;)

My understanding, contrary to the SNP's view, is that the submarine could have freed itself, but waited for one of the "axed tugs" to come and rescue it in order to minimise damage it would have experienced?

Big Fail on that one then...
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
The impact ripped off Astute's starboard foreplane, one of her navigation fins.

No exaggeration there then :roll:

All the time I was a wrecker maintaining steering and hydroplanes and it turns out the foreplanes were for navigation 8O

That's a WE piece of kit then, barstewards kept that quiet :twisted: :twisted:
 
NelliesWellies12 said:
er no, the fact that she ran aground isn't new news however that she was damaged by one of the tugs whilst being rescued is new news, its one of the lead items on bbc radio news today and look at the date the article was published.

Believe me - where I work the tug damage is most definitely old news. The fact that it's new news on the BBC means diddly squat.
 
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NelliesWellies12

Guest
well I posted it for those of us not in the secret squirell club in faslane, its interesting as a further development of the story
 
janner said:
Read this for a wonderful piece of reporting.........

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sunday...-millions-of-pounds-of-damage-86908-22691209/

Looks like someone let the Ace Cub Reporter loose.

Janner,

Seeing a comment on that article (a V.poor 'D-', btw) "....it wouldn't happen in the Thames...." brought this incident to mind:

<< On 13 June, 1984, as HMS JUPITER was leaving the Pool of London after a visit to the capital, she collided with London Bridge causing significant damage to both ship and bridge. The ship's Captain, Commander Colin Hamilton, was later court martialed in Portsmouth on December 4th, 1984. >>

Major news story, and witnessed by thousands, but the surface Navy seem to have conveniently forgotten all about it. :wink:

A quick google failed to locate a photograph but the Red Tops had a field day IIRC......

Just an aside.

Bob
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
BreathingOutOnTheWayUp said:
janner said:
Read this for a wonderful piece of reporting.........

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sunday...-millions-of-pounds-of-damage-86908-22691209/

Looks like someone let the Ace Cub Reporter loose.

Janner,

Seeing a comment on that article (a V.poor 'D-', btw) "....it wouldn't happen in the Thames...." brought this incident to mind:

<< On 13 June, 1984, as HMS JUPITER was leaving the Pool of London after a visit to the capital, she collided with London Bridge causing significant damage to both ship and bridge. The ship's Captain, Commander Colin Hamilton, was later court martialed in Portsmouth on December 4th, 1984. >>

Major news story, and witnessed by thousands, but the surface Navy seem to have conveniently forgotten all about it. :wink:

A quick google failed to locate a photograph but the Red Tops had a field day IIRC......

Just an aside.

Bob

Skimmers seem to forget the Nottingham running aground on a the well charted rock and being brought home by civvies
 

21_Man

War Hero
WreckerL said:
BreathingOutOnTheWayUp said:
janner said:
Read this for a wonderful piece of reporting.........

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sunday...-millions-of-pounds-of-damage-86908-22691209/

Looks like someone let the Ace Cub Reporter loose.

Janner,

Seeing a comment on that article (a V.poor 'D-', btw) "....it wouldn't happen in the Thames...." brought this incident to mind:

<< On 13 June, 1984, as HMS JUPITER was leaving the Pool of London after a visit to the capital, she collided with London Bridge causing significant damage to both ship and bridge. The ship's Captain, Commander Colin Hamilton, was later court martialed in Portsmouth on December 4th, 1984. >>

Major news story, and witnessed by thousands, but the surface Navy seem to have conveniently forgotten all about it. :wink:

A quick google failed to locate a photograph but the Red Tops had a field day IIRC......

Just an aside.

Bob

Skimmers seem to forget the Nottingham running aground on a the well charted rock and being brought home by civvies


Personally, I think that is a good effort at parking in a pretty tight spot!
 

soleil

War Hero
BreathingOutOnTheWayUp said:
janner said:
Read this for a wonderful piece of reporting.........

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sunday...-millions-of-pounds-of-damage-86908-22691209/

Looks like someone let the Ace Cub Reporter loose.

Janner,

Seeing a comment on that article (a V.poor 'D-', btw) "....it wouldn't happen in the Thames...." brought this incident to mind:

<< On 13 June, 1984, as HMS JUPITER was leaving the Pool of London after a visit to the capital, she collided with London Bridge causing significant damage to both ship and bridge. The ship's Captain, Commander Colin Hamilton, was later court martialed in Portsmouth on December 4th, 1984. >>

Major news story, and witnessed by thousands, but the surface Navy seem to have conveniently forgotten all about it. :wink:

A quick google failed to locate a photograph but the Red Tops had a field day IIRC......

Just an aside.

Bob



 

tomm90

Lantern Swinger
NelliesWellies12 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-11691034

you couldn't make this up 8O

Now we have a double balls up, one wonders if Astute is jinked.

"A Navy spokesman said the damage to Astute would be repaired at its Faslane base and the vessel's trials would resume in due course."

If this be so surely the damage is not major, otherwise Astute would have to
go into drydock in Guzz or elsewhere for major repairs. Those with knowledge of repair facilities at Faslane could explain better.
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
Those with knowledge of repair facilities at Faslane could explain better.

Written like a journalist. Explaining the nuclear submarine repair capabilities of one facility over another may be sailing close to the wind. The Astute threads have avoided that so far, let's keep it that way.

Trivia corner; one of the MCA emergency tugs (not this one) went aground in 2005. A lot of damage and she was OOA for some time. IIRC, the skipper was shitfaced.
 

Joe_Crow

War Hero
tomm90 said:
NelliesWellies12 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-11691034

you couldn't make this up 8O

Now we have a double balls up, one wonders if Astute is jinked.

"A Navy spokesman said the damage to Astute would be repaired at its Faslane base and the vessel's trials would resume in due course."

If this be so surely the damage is not major, otherwise Astute would have to
go into drydock in Guzz or elsewhere for major repairs. Those with knowledge of repair facilities at Faslane could explain better.

Spoken like someone who hasn't really got a clue. What makes you think that what you have written is in any way correct?
 

tomm90

Lantern Swinger
Seadog said:
Those with knowledge of repair facilities at Faslane could explain better.

Written like a journalist. Explaining the nuclear submarine repair capabilities of one facility over another may be sailing close to the wind. The Astute threads have avoided that so far, let's keep it that way.

Trivia corner; one of the MCA emergency tugs (not this one) went aground in 2005. A lot of damage and she was OOA for some time. IIRC, the skipper was shitfaced.

No not a journalist just an old diesel boat veteran. When I was last at Faslane on a visit with the SA we were informed the facilities at Faslane was not capable of doing major repairs to submarines. All the boats did their major repairs and refits at Guzz. The lift and shed at Faslane was only used for planned maintentance and minor repairs. That was five years ago maybe things have changed since then.
 
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