Grenfell Tower

#21
I put the article on here to try and discourage anyone from blaming ANY politicol party.
Wrong decisions have been made over many years and NO particular party is to blame.
These tiles are on buildings all over the UK and have been fitted by councils (and independent companies) for years.
We do not need a blame culture, we need a lets fix it correctly culture.
As for Corbyn making politicol gains from it, the man is a disaster and no way is capable of running the country
 
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#22
I put the article on here to try and discourage anyone from blaming ANY politicol party.
Wrong decisions have been made over many years and NO particular party is to blame.
These tiles are on buildings all over the UK and have been fitted by councils (and independent companies) for years.
We do not need a blame culture, we need a lets fix it correctly culture.
As for Corbyn making politicol gains from it, the man is a disaster and no way is capable of running the country
Bollocks Slim and you know it, you called it 'socialist disinformation'. It was abundantly clear what you were trying to do. As for your 'we don't need a blame culture' that's exactly what that post was trying to achieve.

You were rumbled posting a lie to fire the clay of your own agenda. That post even had you tagged in it in another thread where it had already been debunked.

At least have the nuts to own up to it. Caught lying yet still squirming. Politicians trait that.
 
#24
Bollocks Slim and you know it, you called it 'socialist disinformation'. It was abundantly clear what you were trying to do. As for your 'we don't need a blame culture' that's exactly what that post was trying to achieve.

You were rumbled posting a lie to fire the clay of your own agenda. That post even had you tagged in it in another thread where it had already been debunked.

At least have the nuts to own up to it. Caught lying yet still squirming. Politicians trait that.
So our resident genius MonntyP who assured us that my post was misleading may just have to eat his words.
Seems the Met have decided that the residents committee along with the council may be charged in connection with the fire.
The residents committee need not worry though cos Monty stated that they were not guilty! (or words to that effect)
 
#25
So our resident genius MonntyP who assured us that my post was misleading may just have to eat his words.
Seems the Met have decided that the residents committee along with the council may be charged in connection with the fire.
The residents committee need not worry though cos Monty stated that they were not guilty! (or words to that effect)
Your signature block includes 'Never let the truth spoil a good dit'.

You may be taking that too far.
 
#26
Your signature block includes 'Never let the truth spoil a good dit'.

You may be taking that too far.
Perhaps you are correct:)
However the truth is that the powers that be have decided that the residents committee and council may be charged.
MontyP insisted that only the council were culpable.
 
#27
Perhaps you are correct:)
However the truth is that the powers that be have decided that the residents committee and council may be charged.
MontyP insisted that only the council were culpable.
Only time will apportion blame, first a case has to be brought, get to court and then who can afford the best defence lawyer, may not be without blame but may still get away, due to some loop hole, sad but it happens.
 
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#28
So our resident genius MonntyP who assured us that my post was misleading may just have to eat his words.
Seems the Met have decided that the residents committee along with the council may be charged in connection with the fire.
The residents committee need not worry though cos Monty stated that they were not guilty! (or words to that effect)
Feel free to repost exactly where I stated the residents committee was 'not guilty' or indeed blame free for any of it.

MontyP insisted that only the council were culpable.
Nope. Not anywhere. You know people can read right?

Perhaps you are correct:)
At least you admitted to typing hoop. Which is a step in the right direction. Try and keep your Facebook fake news out of current affairs though eh?
 
#29
Oh Monty
Perhaps you would to appear as Lawyer representing those members of the residents committee.
You may not have stated that the residents committe were not guilty but you at least implied it.

You stated
It is run by KCTMO on behalf of the council, a subcontract in a way. The council maintains accountability and still manages the budget, completely.

Monty lets face it, you are a bullshitter, but at least you are consistant.
 
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Perhaps you are correct:)
Oh Monty
Perhaps you would to appear as Lawyer representing those members of the residents committee.
You may not have stated that the residents committe were not guilty but you at least implied it.

You stated
It is run by KCTMO on behalf of the council, a subcontract in a way. The council maintains accountability and still manages the budget, completely.

Monty lets face it, you are a bullshitter, but at least you are consistant.

Bless you. Let me try and simplify it as you're clearly operating a level below:

The council IS fully accountable. Responsibility can be delegated, ergo KCTMO given the contract. However accountability can NOT be delegated. The council remain accountable for actions carried out by anyone on their behalf. Consider it where the buck stops. Which is why the residents committee AND the council may face charges. So you see, my statement remains correct, and you still cannot find where I absolved the residents committee of any responsibility. Because I didn't. You can have another go if you like.

It really isn't difficult to understand.
 
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#32
Monty
You really are a boring twit
Though the council is accountable, so is the residents committee.

It might be boring. But I don't make the rules and regulations. Such is the world of ISO 9001, Safety and law. Which you obviously don't understand.

There is a difference between responsibility and accountability. They are not the same. The council remains accountable.

If you have nothing qualified to bring to the thread, start a new one in the gash barge.
 
#33
It might be boring. But I don't make the rules and regulations. Such is the world of ISO 9001, Safety and law. Which you obviously don't understand.

There is a difference between responsibility and accountability. They are not the same. The council remains accountable.

If you have nothing qualified to bring to the thread, start a new one in the gash barge.
Yawn!
 

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