Government recruiting freeze? Nah, so stop asking

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  1. Maybe a bone question, but does the freeze in civil servant recruitment announced today mean there will also be a freeze in recruitment into the forces?
     
  2. fails_as_is

    fails_as_is Badgeman Book Reviewer

    Re: One for NS or SM....

    it's not bone, but the civil service recruitment freeze has a totally different effect to that in the forces.
    In the forces you can't just go out and hire a ready made senior rating or officer to fill certain posts, so we have to grow our people. A recruiting freeze leads to a black hole in seniority / experience which slowly propagates through the manpower plot over time, causing blockages and gaps as it works its way through. We don't have a recruitment freeze at the moment, we did at the end of the cold war and we are still feeling the effects of it.
    In the civil service people can dip in and out of many of the posts and so the requirement in terms of qualifications and experience is subtly different to that in the forces.
    In the case of the RN there are not recruiting freezes, just long waiting lists so the same effect happens but in theory it should be more managable because the effect is only felt in individual branches and specialisations rather than across the board.
    Hope that answers your question.
     
  3. Re: One for NS or SM....

    Great, thanks
     
  4. Re: One for NS or SM....

    Can i expand on this subject please. I have read that the armed forces operations budget has been cut by 25%. Can anyone explain how this will affect the RN?
     
  5. Re: One for NS or SM....

    As far as I know its not effecting the RN recruiting process, there are rumours of closing down Portsmouth, but thats just rumours... I hope :)
     
  6. janner

    janner War Hero Book Reviewer

    Re: One for NS or SM....

    Obviously not!
     
  7. Re: One for NS or SM....

    ->http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7747226/Coalition-policies-a-fresh-start-but-tough-choices-are-kicked-into-the-long-grass.html<-

    Skip down to the "Defence" section.
     
  8. Re: One for NS or SM....

    If you mean

    Then this will apply to MoD as a whole, including civil servants, consultants, real estate, travel & subsistence etc etc.

    But I can't see where it says the operations budget has been cut by 25%.
     
  9. Re: One for NS or SM....

    You are perhaps reading a little too far into the statement. The MoD is not entirely the Armed Forces and operational costs to the MoD are not operational costs to the Forces (as the RN, Army and RAF are concerned.)

    Await more details before assuming cuts to budgets regarding operations rather than cuts in poor procurement and civil service structure. The subtext seems to be they're looking mainly for efficiencies - but watch this space.
     
  10. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Re: One for NS or SM....

    Until we're told any different, recruiting continues unabated as we are public sector, not civil servants.

    As always there are rumours. We like rumours in the Navy. Some of them, but not many, even come true sometimes.

    When the man at the top squawks a a policy change, the first we know about it is pretty much when the person on the street finds out about it too. The long-term implications & actual mechanics that involve the changes being implimented take rather longer than the announcement and all we can do is speculate.

    The rough rule of thumb is that if manpower reductions are announced, there may be a reduction in recruiting or lengthening of waiting times (assuming the reduction doesn't come entirely from within). If an increase in manpower is announced there maybe an increase in recruiting or shortening of waiting times (assuming the increase doesn't come entirely from within, by lengthening contracts and retention incentives).
     
  11. Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    Im 18, currently in the application process for the Navy as an AET,
    I heard today that the new government has frozen all applications to ALL forces?
    Ive tried to find out information and cant, i was told ill be going in july time in 2011.
    has anyone got any news on the applicatioon freeze or what it actually is??
     
  12. Re: Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    I herd the freeze was purely for the civil service. I hope they are not freezing the armed forces :( I haven't herd they were, I hope I am right!
     
  13. Re: Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    What you herding Holli? Cattle or Sheep?

    As for the recruiting it's not the armed forces being froze.
     
  14. Re: Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    Thanks guys, put my mind at ease :)
     
  15. Re: Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    Thanks Tommo, for pointing out my great spelling. :p
     
  16. Re: Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    No problem :D
     
  17. Re: Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    The civil service is not the sodding armed forces, what are they teaching in school these days? Jesus fing christ.
     
  18. Re: Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    To be fair, he is welsh!
     
  19. Re: Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    Tommo obviously!

    :D
     
  20. Re: Governmebt freezes recruitment??

    Yes but what has that got to do with anything? :?
     

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