Happy to stand corrected, if I can believe all the suppositions and imponderables in the Ernst and Young survey. But I don't have to like those awful great thrumming things that so much open ground is becoming infested with.Allnightin said:[
Energy payback for windpower is as much as a factor of 80, while coal and gas are of the order of 5 so your bit about never recouping the build cost of wind in saved energy just isn't right.
I was in Israel some years ago and there was a plan to pipe the Med (not all of it, of course) down to the Dead Sea and have massive hydro-electric generating capacity as a result. Don't know if it ever happened.