German soldiers pose with Afgan skulls

[rugger_bob]

German soldiers pose with skulls and various desecration's of human remains at a mass grave.

Guys, whats your thoughts on this ?

1. Is this a common thing with the armed forces abroad ?, a sort of (black humour).
2. How common is it with any of the British or coalition service's abroad ?
3. What action will be taken or should be taken, i.e. criminal/ disciplinary.
4. Should this be reported or kept out of the news ?.

 

[TattooDog]

1. Is this a common thing with the armed forces abroad ?, a sort of (black humour).
2. How common is it with any of the British or coalition service's abroad ?
3. What action will be taken or should be taken, i.e. criminal/ disciplinary.
4. Should this be reported or kept out of the news ?.

1. I think you'll find that this black humour has been present in many wars/conflicts. My grandad had a group photo of his brother's platoon in WW2 and the group included a dead German soldier who had been posed amongst the group - apparently he became their mate or mascot! There are many similar accounts from WW1 & 2, Korea, Vietnam, Falklands as well as the other conflicts. Possibly those involved become conditioned due to the stresses they are under, but you can't rule out the possibility that sometimes the military, and some units in particular, attract people who have a "different" set of morals.

2. Don't know about that.

3. I would expect that the first course of action would be disciplinary as they have probably breached their equivalent of the Armed Forces Discipline Act.

4. I don't think you can put a press blackout on this type of thing as it will always emerge somehow - in the same way as stories of prisoner abuse can't be kept under wraps.

 

[Nutty]

It is about time every serviceman who has served in Balkans, Middle East or any other active war zone goes thru his electronic and hard copies of pictures and deletes or destroys any photo/image that could be construed as embarrassing or as a war crime or illigal act, cruel and inhumane treatment, contravention of the Geneva Convention.

Just how stupid are you guys out there still with these pics that just may send you or your mates to prison. Let alone give succor to our enemies.

DISPOSE OF NOW BEFORE YOUR UNIT IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE SCUM OR SIMILAR

Nutty

 

[sweeney]

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[TattooDog]

Just how stupid are you guys out there still with these pics that just may send you or your mates to prison. Let alone give succor to our enemies.
Nutty

Even more stupid is putting same phots into Boots for developing!! :roll:

 

[clanky]

German soldiers pose with skulls and various desecration's of human remains at a mass grave.

Guys, whats your thoughts on this ?

1. Is this a common thing with the armed forces abroad ?, a sort of (black humour).
2. How common is it with any of the British or coalition service's abroad ?
3. What action will be taken or should be taken, i.e. criminal/ disciplinary.
4. Should this be reported or kept out of the news ?.

What paper do you work for?

 

[HARRY_MASKERS]

It's inspiring tho, they could use the scull, find a few bones and design it as a cap badge! (or even an arm band), bet no German's thought of that before.

 

[andym]

It's inspiring tho, they could use the scull, find a few bones and design it as a cap badge! (or even an arm band), bet no German's thought of that before.

I think youll find that we already have a Cavalry regiment that has a skull and crossbones as its cap badge.

The Queens Royal Lancers.

 

[SILVER_FOX]

clanky wrote: What paper do you work for?

Exactly what I was thinking.

SF

 

[whitemouse]

German soldiers pose with skulls and various desecration's of human remains at a mass grave.


Did you, perchance, forget about the parading of the skeletal remains of the US servicemen killed in the attempted hostage rescue in Iran ?

or

the parading of prisoners, wounded and otherwise, through Hanoi during the Vietnam war ?

or

conveniently forgetting the atrocities committed by the Saddam Hussein's troops on the Marsh Arabs

or even

the civilians marched in front of the troops across Iranian minefields ?

The media were, and are willing to spout about western troops so-called insensitivity, but keep very quiet about other countries, whose record is far from squeaky clean.

You'd be better off checking that lot out, I think.

 

[rugger_bob]

Hi guys, no i dont work for any press or related industry, it was just a mere topic of discussion.

I know this has happened through out history, in many wars, conflicts and of course with all the armed forces from every country that has been involved in such wars.

I do think though any such happenings should be treated with utter disgrace, ie, if i was in a conflict and i lost a friend i was serving with , and this type of thing happened to his remains, not sure what i would do.
( But then again i have never been in a war or conflict )

Also what was mentioned before, the disgrace it would bring on your unit or regiment/service through the press etc.

 

[Rincewind]

i worked with pioneers who in GW1 took pics of heads with fags stuffed into bullet holes in cadavers. i know of pics of argies minus thier ears when the Para's got amongst them (no survivors).

Fact of the matter is this sick sh1t does happen and i think if you train people to kill you have to accept that there will be a darker side those peoples take on humour.

I cant speak for jack or for blue jobs... i imagine you feel very detatched from war, some one presses a button, something goes "whooooosh" and you crack on with whatever you were doing.... miles away people die - wasnt you that did it.

In the Army and the Marines, RAF Regt and any other Army...

You see the immediate effect of what you just did - most times you are actually looking onto the eyes of the person you just killed.

That require training and a certain level of detatchement from whats actually going on.

We soldiers use humour to mask most everyday occurances, so it stands to reason humour will be used to play down the darker side of mankind.

If you are not there experiencing it 1st hand i feel you are not in a place to comment.

I certainly feel that the media should not be allowed on the front line, and definately not be allowed to be imbedded with troops.

Rincewind